GRRR Squad Forum

It was a frustrating night for most. Server lag didn't help. Good that we got started, here are my thoughts. Its long, sorry.

[u]Focussing on objectives (attack mode).[/u]
Particularly on attack, we need to ignore the battles in the middle of the map and sneak around them to the actual objectives. Being drawn into fights nowhere near the Com sites only benefits the defensive team as they can keep spawning and replenishing their numbers. Driving the team back may work on public servers but I don't think it will in Clan matches where the respawn/revive will be more coordinated. My reasoning; even if we drive them back, we will lose time and tickets and they will know our positioning. If we are going to use the 'drive' tactic then we need to prac it and all know what we are doing at the time.

Once a site is armed (we on attack still) we need to toob camp/nade spam the fuck out of it. We need 2 toobers camped just above each point lobbing 40mm nades endlessly on it.

I am for the idea of having 1 squad member (recon) hiding as a respawn, lobbing motion sensors onto a site and 2 assaults going in with C4 but it is something we need to practice.

If you are hiding near a com site and see an enemy spawn near you and start to run away it is NOT in your interest to kill him. He will report your presence and respawn. Spot him and let him get out of the way.

[u]Squad Dynamics[/u]
2 squads of 4 was fairly effective on defense but as Lee pointed out, it would split their defense more if we used more squads on attack. I dont think we should practice in set squads with set kits. I think we need to be dynamic and jump in and out of squads using whatever kit is necessary.

[u]Armour[/u]
We need to support it to make it effective.

[u]Teamspeak[/u]
My views are 2 channels for 2 squads on defense when there are 2 sites to defend, switching to 1 channel if one site is blown. 1 channel for all on attack, keeping the chat to important stuffs like squad hopping, enemy positioning, kits and respawns. I think we all need to focus as a team on attack, I think 1 channel will help.

[u]Recon[/u]
Motion sensors are the shit. On attack and defense. I still dont rate the sniper rifle as particularly useful but 2 recons in the team with G3's/shotties would get my support.

It was our first prac, we can only get better. Those are my thoughts and ideas, hope they are useful.

Conversely, my gameplay has gone to shit in the past two or three days. I'll put in some serious time over this long weekend to try and get myself up to speed.

EDIT: Following on from what's been said about choosing the first team, I think it should be done by Monday so that they can take on SSG in the 'friendly'.

WRT practices etc - the more we play, the more we will improve. At the moment it's almost a case of quantity over quality. We learnt from BF2 that clannies bear little or no resemblance to online play, so practicing in 'clannie' mode should be top priority for the selected first team. In terms of the upcoming league, I think we should see it as a kind of 'live fire' practice for rAge. We should study and observe in every game so that we learn from other teams and from our own mistakes. I know every clan will be on new ground as it's the first BC2 comp for any SA team, but to be brutally honest, I think there are a number of clans that will hand us our asses, simply because they have younger, better players on faster rigs than a lot of our members. I think this is one of the major factors affecting best performance for most of us: hardware. The game is new and serious system hog. For those of us that can't afford R40k rigs atm, that immediately puts us at a disadvantage. (Not being nasty to anyone that does have a kickass rig - just pointing out the setbacks for those that don't). I know if I'd tried clannie play in BF2 on the rig that i started with, it would have been brutal. Give it 18 months and I think a lot of our players will have upgraded bits here and there that will help a shitload with running the game more smoothly. On the other hand, of course, if DL manage to get us hardware sponsorship, we may be able to give some of these okes a run for their money sooner rather than later.

/2c

My game play has gone up by at least 100% since the new Graphics card. I will soon ride your sorry arses for a spot in the first team..... :ky: :crackup: :crackup:

Agreed

It goes without saying that Lee has the final word, whom ever he chooses, if they have said they can play, that will be the team. No hard feelings, no grudge NIX!!!

All true. We were poor last night, and got our arses handed to us by the BBHers. Granted, it was a 'who can make it' team last night, and we had no coherent plan beforehand, but then I can't imagine that BBH did either.

Right, we need to move on, and up our game. Quickly. We have less than a week before the league starts.

The Danglers team hasn't yet been finalised, Lee will put the finishing touches on this planning and hopefully announce the team today. In order to give the Danglers the best possible chance, I suggest that he has access to any 11 players in grrr for his squad (barring those who have opted out of the Danglers team). Please guys, this will be a difficult decisions for Lee, let's all respect his decision, even if you disagree with any of his selections. He's on the hook for the Danglers performance, so he must be given free reign to choose and run his team (no pressure Lee ;) ).

The remaining GRRRbians that wish to play in the league will be allocated to the Nutz along with our BBH chums, under the tender leadership of Chaos.

If I get a chance (I have a hectic day today), I'll get on to Hype Gamez WRT the server lag. Lee, if you get a chance before me, could you email Peter and Wayne (copying me, of course).

After last night I don't want to play this stupid dumbass game ever again - it was just horrible.

I agree with you, Paul. We need to have a group that works well together. Every person has a different style and you have to adapt when you in another squad (speaking from a medic's perspective).

MY THOUGHTS ON LAST NIGHT'S PRAC

I know we were 2 players short a lot of the time but I don't think we put in our best performance. I think in order to improve we need to have a regular team that will learn how to play with each other. Everyone is trying to be nice and say "Oh I will play where ever is needed" etc etc

But I think with less than a week before the league a "First" team needs to be chosen and they need to get as much game time in as possible together. So they can find out what works and what doesn't.

I assume the Danglers team is now set and this is our first team? If not it needs to be changed ASAP so that they can get going. I don't want us to be like FiB and win at all costs but a good showing would be nice.

I hope this post didn't come off harsh, I just expected us to do better, especially against BBH who I view as been on our level

no objections drag

Available for prac from 8:00/8:30pm this evening

Dragonne
IcenFlame (tentative - I'm babysitting this evening Jem should be down by 19:30)
j0nny (tentative - have to see what work throws at me)
MegaMoustachio
Paul (I can't commit to playing for the Danglers or Mixed nuts but I will be there tonight for opposition)
Skouperd
leelo (blah blah blah)
Onyx (I don't have an excuse)
Voetsek ( installing graphics drivers NOW! )
NiteShade
Fly
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If we are short, Lep is willing to join. Just let us know. (QFT)

Available for prac from 8:00/8:30pm this evening

Dragonne
IcenFlame (tentative - I'm babysitting this evening Jem should be down by 19:30)
j0nny (tentative - have to see what work throws at me)
MegaMoustachio
Paul (I can't commit to playing for the Danglers or Mixed nuts but I will be there tonight for opposition)
Skouperd
leelo (blah blah blah)
Onyx (I don't have an excuse)
Voetsek ( installing graphics drivers NOW! )
NiteShade
*

If we are short, Lep is willing to join. Just let us know.