=DAC=Crusaders Clan Match

[SlipperyDuck]

they havent played em yet.

I'd say we'd do better if they had no armour. Two other games I remember, they had armour and damaged us quite badly, whereas on foot - not as much.

I could be wrong though

[pmurgs]

I personally favour Nelson Bay over Port Valdez. Reason being we have always done well on Nelson Bay and I think our strategy is solid and have a practised it a few times now. I think Port Valdez is more of luck of the draw kind of map... a wrong move at the wrong time, or failing to make the right move at the right time can tilt the game quite heavily. Basically Port Valdez requires much solid leading than Nelson Bay. Nelson Bay we all know what we need to do, and know when to make the call about moving forward or holding or what to do if things go against us.

[NoMaD]

well, i feel that if we can kill their chopper mad fast, say voetsek can put a dart on it asap and shoot it down (which i feel is faster than us chopper doods shotting it) and we can control B adn the AA, then the armour will be moot! key for valdez is to dominate with the chopper. last time we went down to quickly, and i take full blame for that as I was to aggressive. I think that if we can have one squad on the flag and the other 2 that are not in the chopper watching for people trying to slip behind and past to back cap, we could dominate. also we should consider breaking the squads up into 3 - 3 - 2 to widen the effective defensive spread.

on valdez if we play ti to the strat and with no mistakes we can dominate them.

nelson bay feels like it can go either way, as we dont know their kpd and strength with one on one encounters. the chopper in valdez negates that as it can take down a whole squad in a matter of a few seconds.

if we are tactically aware and play a disciplined defensive game we can win on nelson, tho it does depend on the side that pitches up on the day (whether we are gelling and got our reflexes dialed in)

my vote would be valdez

[NoMaD]

hmmm some good points, i would have to agree with murgs, playing nelson does take a lot of chance out of the equation.

[J_Th4ng]

Nelson bay for me. Remember, we struggled on Valdez last time, and only just won teh match. Granted, j0nny's discos and my n00bness didn't help, but still, results are results.

Nelson bay has no armour, so if we feel we have the edge on them man on man we should definitely go that route. We'll need to perfect the medic revive squad though, keeping hold of our tickets is going to be key.

[s3xy_j0nny]

I rate we do better as 2 x 4man grunt squads than we do when we're split between infantry and vehicle jockeys. I vote Nelson. However, the way the team has been working makes me confident that whatever map we end up choosing, we can give DAC a hard time.

[Hubris]

Sho that is a tough choice. My opinion is that we will be stronger on Nelson.

I worry that a better side can lose on Valdez bcos of the critical importance of B and the high probability of a shut out either way early on.

Up to you brains trust

[NoMaD]

hey paul i am creating a table of stats, what is your bfbc2 full soldiers name? searching stats

*EDIT* soz was being a noob! got it

[Paul]

I have checked their team and unless my memory is failing me, this is a different team to what we previously played, not totally but there are new faces.


Anyway, checked out their KDR's, kits etc (Couldn't find the info for =DAC=Invader and =Whaagh!) and they are kind of split, got maybe 3 good players and the others are average. They did seems to lean towards Armour and Recon that along with the comments above have lead me to the decision to go with Nelson Bay. That was my first choice but I was not sure if having such an easy time against IRF had influenced my decision.

So here is the team line up, as I mentioned we will go with the same strats from last time, each squad takes a side and defends, pushes up when they have a chance.

These are suggested kits but SL have final say

Alpha
Lee (SL) :Assault
j0nny :Assualt/Recon
Hubris : Medic
NoMaD : Medic


Bravo
Paul (SL) :Assault/Medic
Murgs : Assualt
Mikey : Medic/Assault
Dragonne : Medic

Remember if you can, we are invading the public servers tonight to get some prac in

[NoMaD]

Here are the Stats and my conclusion

K/D kills fav class Armour kills Armour time helo kills helo time
Ch8s3r(46) - 1.66 20540 med 780 18.5hours 655 23.5 hours
Invader(50) - 1.53 33158 eng/med 4284 63.5hours 878 16 hours
RSA.Ridder(45) - 1.39 18540 Ass 2167 38hours 201 6.5 hours
FibreTek(46) - 1.32 19484 Ass 697 16.5hours 380 15.5 hours
pHac3t(50) - 1.68 25588 Ass/eng/med 798 20hours 95 2.5 hours
du}{(50) - 1.3 26340 Ass/rec 1785 35hours 363 10 hours
Whaagh!(29) - 0.81 3855 eng/med 195 5.5hours 83 4 hours
ZONKSA
Jansen(22) - 0.66 1744 ass/med/rec 73 2hours 4 5min
Will1970(39) - 1.1 11770 med 401 13hours 167 3 hours

Team Ave(42) - 1.27 17891 1242 23.5hours 314 9 hours

Paul(46) - 1.52 17783 ass/med/eng 2520 44 hours 38 0.6hours
Dragonne(35) - 1.06 8668 ass/med/eng 347 8 hours 53 0.6hours
Hubris(50) - 1.6 23288 ass/med 702 12 hours 697 10hours
Leelo(50) - 1.45 28389 eng/med 724 10.5 hours 134 2hours
NoMaD(41) - 1.3 12842 med/ass 672 13 hours 242 11hours
pmurgs(50) - 1.74 42814 ass 1347 20 hours 46 1hours
S3xy_j0nny(50)- 1.47 31006 ass/rec 1791 27 hours 91 3hours
Voetsek(45) - 1.08 19390 med/ass/eng 1100 21 hours 25 1.5hours
Cr0n0s(27) - 0.83 3643 ass 160 3.5 hours 34 1hours
Jackal-GI -

Team Ave(44) - 1.34 20869 1040 17.5hours 151 3.4hours


So from this table we can see that in outright kills we have an overwhelming 3000 kills per player, however their armour and helicopter hours and kills dominate us considerably.

So my conclusion is that we play Nelson as many of you have voted. 007