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I agree with the duck!! My Kaves are awesome, initially they were a bit uncomfortable because they are quite heavy but I have got used to it and the sound is awesome
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SlipperyDuck wrote:subjective I rate - I find the Kaves to be very pleasant...top shelf


Isn't everything related to headphones subjective (including your opinion)? ;)

I'm not against them, but I found them to be uncomfortable and very heavy (as with most 5.1 headsets). I also found that there is no improvement in positional audio at all using a 5.1 set over a stereo set - wheich is generally a lot more comfortable to wear, and provides considerably better audio quality.

Just my subjective opinion...
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Dragonne wrote:
SlipperyDuck wrote:subjective I rate - I find the Kaves to be very pleasant...top shelf


Isn't everything related to headphones subjective (including your opinion)? ]


Well, I don't know if it is just BF3 but the 5.1 help me tremendously in gaming. Like last night, I was charged with protecting Locker room. I could hear when people were coming up Dog leg before anyone said antyhing. I have often suprised a guy trying to sneak up on me purely by sound.
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Dragonne wrote:I also found that there is no improvement in positional audio at all using a 5.1 set over a stereo set


You should try positional audio analysis with an ear plug in the one ear and a piece of cotton in the other... I can state it as a matter of fact that there is no difference whatsoever between determining the location of the sound irrespective whether it is 7.2, 7.1, 5.1, stereo or mono sound...

Anyevent, just me educated opinion...
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Paul wrote:
Dragonne wrote:
SlipperyDuck wrote:subjective I rate - I find the Kaves to be very pleasant...top shelf


Isn't everything related to headphones subjective (including your opinion)? ]


Well, I don't know if it is just BF3 but the 5.1 help me tremendously in gaming. Like last night, I was charged with protecting Locker room. I could hear when people were coming up Dog leg before anyone said antyhing. I have often suprised a guy trying to sneak up on me purely by sound.


Have you compared your Kaves with a decent pair of headphones using virtual surround? Because you'll probably find that you get the same benefit with those.

TBH, I tested a variety of different 5.1 and stereo headphones/headsets. I firmly believed that a 5.1 headset would give me an advantage, and that's why I've tried so many of them. What I found though, after doing a fair amount of testing, was that a good pair of stereo cans, combined with a good sound card, is better.

If that's different for you, then cool. All I'm trying to say is that 5.1 headphones aren't the only way to get positional audio. And, they may not be the best way either.
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Stereo cans and virtual 3d positioning is better only if using X-Fi or Xonar soundcards in my experience, else use 5.1

Good Quality Stereo headphones with microphone attachment is also limited in the available range department. I'd argue that the Kaves are to my liking for the top shelf quality microphone alone.

So the advice to sheri at the end of the day?

Do you have a descrete Sound card - like a X-Fi or Xonar? Do you know how to fiddle with the drivers and related software to enable virtual 7.1 through stereo? If yes - then goto Stereo Headset and click buy; else loadup$ purchase roccat kave

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I do have an X-Fi sound card and my zalman mic is just fine. So I'll most likely try the HD555 as I don't have a lot of spare cash laying around. Also, this guy can only do Sennheiser brand.

Work is hectic right now so I didn't get a chance to phone today. I'll try tomorrow. Sorry okes.
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Skouperd wrote:
Dragonne wrote:I also found that there is no improvement in positional audio at all using a 5.1 set over a stereo set


You should try positional audio analysis with an ear plug in the one ear and a piece of cotton in the other... I can state it as a matter of fact that there is no difference whatsoever between determining the location of the sound irrespective whether it is 7.2, 7.1, 5.1, stereo or mono sound...

Anyevent, just me educated opinion...


Aren't you deaf in one ear?
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Soz Okes, I've had some unexpected expenses and can only inquire about this end of March.
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Geth wrote:
Skouperd wrote:
Dragonne wrote:I also found that there is no improvement in positional audio at all using a 5.1 set over a stereo set


You should try positional audio analysis with an ear plug in the one ear and a piece of cotton in the other... I can state it as a matter of fact that there is no difference whatsoever between determining the location of the sound irrespective whether it is 7.2, 7.1, 5.1, stereo or mono sound...

Anyevent, just me educated opinion...


Aren't you deaf in one ear?


that's my whole point Geth... there are no difference when you are deaf whether you use mono, stereo, 5.1, 7.2, or virtual sound, they all sound the same.

I wonder if I can take on MS for discriminating against hard-to-hear people for removing mono options from Windows 7... ;-)
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