GRRR Squad Forum

Ok I know its a bit late, But my PC will be up and running again by Monday.

So you fucklkers better look out. I will be coming for you on a server near you.

I officially retired the Nutz team on Dogaming, saw that another team, The chosen Few also retired their team.

[quote="Skouperd "]
No pressure on the Baggers... but if they don't win, they are not only letting themselves down individually, but also the rest of the Baggers team, the rest of the clan, the Gaming Community as a whole, but more importantly, their fellow brethren the Nutz...
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I will take this an order to teamkill Paul in every clan match I play... as I think thats the gist of what you asked of me.

[quote="Geth "]I have worked with teams where the enthusiasm isn't there and I sympathise with Skoups. I'd also feel reluctant to lead a group who can't inject their own enthusiasm into playing together.
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Exactly , I would rather retire the team without any disgrace than try get something organised and at the end of the day you just have a bunch of frustrated and annoyed people.


Also bear in mind this does not stop us from organising friendlies where anyone can play.

Jarrod you may be right about morale affecting some, it would never stop me from competing though.

Tyger the Nutz team suffered 2 x technical dropouts and 1 x personal dropout. Adding to that we have myself who is hardly ever in the right country and the squad is already at the bare minimum. From the remaining players we have 6 who managed to sign up for a prac where only 3 showed up. I have worked with teams where the enthusiasm isn't there and I sympathise with Skoups. I'd also feel reluctant to lead a group who can't inject their own enthusiasm into playing together.

No pressure on the Baggers... but if they don't win, they are not only letting themselves down individually, but also the rest of the Baggers team, the rest of the clan, the Gaming Community as a whole, but more importantly, their fellow brethren the Nutz... so stop whinning Murgs and start winning FiB and kie…

Now how’s that for some motivation…

[quote="pmurgs "]
[quote="Dragonne "]
2. When left with the prospect of playing for the B team, I'm sure a lot of players would immediately suffer a little drop in commitment. After all, the B team is unlikely to win any honours, and facing a lot of very tough games will put some people off
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I know I personally wouldn't see this as a reason not to compete. Hell, the baggers are not expecting to beat FiB and sG eta al, but the point of playing is to have fun and enjoy competing in the league.

Pity the nuts can't find the time to compete properly. I'm sure many/all of them actually do want to compete, but life and other things get in the way.
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that this is the primary reason for the team folding, but rather that it would be a contributing factor.

Consider that we played a few intra-clan matches in early December, where the turnout for both teams was very good. As I recall, the Nutz suffered pretty hefty defeats in all games. Following on from that, the best players from the Nutz were promoted to join the baggers. I could certainly see how morale could be a little low.

There's a difference between not expecting to beat the best of the best, and feeling that your team can compete effectively at all.

Most of my rationalisation as to the fall of the Nutz comes from the other points listed, but all of those would contribute to the lack of morale within the team, and therefore a drop in commitment levels.

We deliberately set out to have one team that would be able to compete at the nighest level in the league. i certainly hope that the baggers with give FiB/BvD/ASF etc. a damn good run for their money. If not, we'd have been better off randomly assigning players to two teams. That way, we'd probably see more commitment from both.

[quote="Dragonne "]
2. When left with the prospect of playing for the B team, I'm sure a lot of players would immediately suffer a little drop in commitment. After all, the B team is unlikely to win any honours, and facing a lot of very tough games will put some people off
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I know I personally wouldn't see this as a reason not to compete. Hell, the baggers are not expecting to beat FiB and sG eta al, but the point of playing is to have fun and enjoy competing in the league.

Pity the nuts can't find the time to compete properly. I'm sure many/all of them actually do want to compete, but life and other things get in the way.

@QB - My take on the reasons. Please note that the below is not necessarily how I feel, but rather the results of thinking your question through.

1. Clearly, the best players and the most committed players in a clan are most often one and the same. By splitting into an A and a B side, we would naturally take the majority of the most committed players into the A side.
2. When left with the prospect of playing for the B team, I'm sure a lot of players would immediately suffer a little drop in commitment. After all, the B team is unlikely to win any honours, and facing a lot of very tough games will put some people off
3. We never really had enough players to field two teams plus reserves. We could probably get away with less reserves in the Baggers due to the fact that the players are more committed to the game and the team. The same can't be said for the Nutz
4. People like playing with the people that they regularly play with. Using myself as an example, when I play on the public servers, most of the grrrbians that I'm on with when I play are members of the baggers. There are a couple of exceptions of course (Fly comes to mind most readily), but I very seldom play a public game with the Nutz players. As such, I'm more familiar with and committed to the Baggers team than I am to the Nutz, a team made up of players that I hardly ever play with.

That's my opinion on it all anyway.

Yea its sad news guys.

Why are the people so not keen. I mean i understand some have other commitments and things, but surely there should be possible.
What the reasons?