Win7

[Megageth]

Ok. So its good, but here are some issues I need help with...

Admin Privileges.
Example. CPUZ. Downloaded from the internet, needs access to the computer to read CPU, RAM information etc. So every time I start it up I get an irritating warning. So to save myself right-clicking on the application and selecting "Run as administrator" every time, I go into the properties of the exe (and shortcuts, just in case) and check the little tick box that says "Run this program as an administrator", for ALL fucking users, in particular, me.
Sounding good? I thought so. Still asks me if I want to allow access to my computer when I click on it, and it even has the cheek to put a little admin shield on the icon as if to say "Fuck you Mega, you stupid prick, did you really think it would be that straight forward? HA HA HA!" I also found another "helpful" little check box that says "This program came from the internet: Unblock?" Which seemed to be another red herring.

RouteSentry.
Got it working but have to manually dial the International connection before starting it up. Anyone found a workaround?

[J_Th4ng]

I have the same issue with CPUZ, Prime95 and Realtemp as well.

TBH, I don't know how to fix it, other than disabling UAC. That'll stop any reporting though, so I wouldn't recommend it. Besides, how often do you plan on running CPUZ once your PC is running and tuned to perfection?

More of an irritant for me was the fact that it was happening every time I opened XFire. So I've stopped using it. I tend to use Steam to identify who's online anyway, especially as most grrr's (despite repeated requests) don't tend to use XFire.

I don't use RS, so can't help with that.

[baselineac]

ahhh the fix is easy .......install win xp
tbh i will only think of switching to win7 in a year or 2 ...when they finally got most the bugs sorted

[J_Th4ng]

LOL@Greg. Progress is not for everyone.

"Who needs one of these new-fangled car things. My trusty horse and carriage will see me through".

:crackup:

[Megageth]

Thanks Drag.
Base - most of Window's releases have been buggy so I guess its easy to pre-judge. After 3 days of working with a new OS those are my only complaints. The list of positives over XP is far longer.

[baselineac]

microsoft believes in progress??
dude all they care about is their bank balance ...and the idiots who spend money buying their shit and beta testing it for them

[J_Th4ng]

microsoft believes in progress??
dude all they care about is their bank balance

Show me a company that doesn't!

Weirdly, MS grow their balance by making progress with their software i.e. aAdding and improving on feautres, stability and performance. Windows 7 does all of these over XP, and is one of the most stable OS's I have ever used. Especially considering it's only a couple of weeks since it was launched.



and the idiots who spend money buying their shit and beta testing it for them


Do you not have any MS software on your PC? Or are you also one of 'the idiots'?

Of course you should stick with XP if you want to, it's a perfectly functional operating system. Of course, so was MS-DOS 6.2... :D

[Paul]

Jarrod dude, you are getting suckered into one of Greg classic wind up posts

[J_Th4ng]

Fair point Paul, but at this stage I'm enjoying myself :)

[baselineac]

lol jarrod ..i so love it when you get excited...
im waiting for a decent crack to come out ...then i will install win7

[SlipperyDuck]

you can get your crack @ http://www.bsa.co.za

[baselineac]

:crackup:

[Megageth]

Or better yet: www.baselinac.com (http://www.ratemypoo.com)

[AuRoRa]

Ok. So its good, but here are some issues I need help with...

Admin Privileges.
Example. CPUZ. Downloaded from the internet, needs access to the computer to read CPU, RAM information etc. So every time I start it up I get an irritating warning. So to save myself right-clicking on the application and selecting "Run as administrator" every time, I go into the properties of the exe (and shortcuts, just in case) and check the little tick box that says "Run this program as an administrator", for ALL fucking users, in particular, me.
Sounding good? I thought so. Still asks me if I want to allow access to my computer when I click on it, and it even has the cheek to put a little admin shield on the icon as if to say "Fuck you Mega, you stupid prick, did you really think it would be that straight forward? HA HA HA!" I also found another "helpful" little check box that says "This program came from the internet: Unblock?" Which seemed to be another red herring.


RouteSentry.
Got it working but have to manually dial the International connection before starting it up. Anyone found a workaround?


1 - Admin...

Go into the control panel , look for user accounts and the turn off the little ticked box called User account control... PROBLEM solved..

2 - RouteSentry

U should give Iggy a call , he has it working like a dream on his Win 7

[AuRoRa]

Just so that u know why im saying turn it off - http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/01/07/windows-7-whats-up-with-the-uac

These guys state that the UAC now has different levels , wich does make it more user friendly.. point is , if u are in a single user enviroment , u do not need UAC , it is designed for multi level security , for eg: a corporate network were users need differnt control levels for security reasons.
So UAC is a ver nice little feature when u need custom security levels , but for home , u dont need it.

http://netsecurity.about.com/od/quicktips/qt/UAC.htm

[SlipperyDuck]

I've got a strange issue where Windows update REFUSES to connect (after 10 minutes of trying) to the windows update server.
Logged a ticket with Microsoft and everything (You can do this if you're legit :readthis: ), will see how that turns out and let you know.

[J_Th4ng]

Nice link there Jean, certainly does explain what UAC is, and why it was so reviled in Vista.

However, it doesn't say anything about multi-level security or not being needed for home use.

In fact, it would seem to be saying that it's a lot better than Vista's UAC:


Since many software programs did not support UAC when it was first introduced in Windows Vista, the applications failed and created lots of issues, which reflected in a bad user experience. As many applications are built with the support of UAC now, it is a seamless experience in Windows 7.

You can see that the user can go directly to the UAC settings from the prompt to change how these notifications appear if the user is not happy about these notifications.

Overall, the UAC experience is much improved in Windows 7 than in Windows Vista. The number of clicks (by default) is drastically reduced in Windows 7 when compared to Windows Vista. The ultimate goal of the UAC is to provide user the control over what changes can happen to the system and not to annoy users with more number of prompts.

I'm not saying that it's a vital service, or that it should never be turned off. All I say is that one should be cautious about turning it off. it improves Windows security, and anything that does that is a good thing. On top of that, it's a helluva lot less intrusive than it was under Vista.

My experience with it so far is that it only pops up for three programs that I'm using: CPUZ, Realtemp, and Prime95. I'm only using these programs in order to stabilise my overclock settings, so they really don't bother me as I'll stop using them soon.

However, if you are constantly using programs that infringe the UAC, then by all means turn UAC off if you want to. Just be sure to have good security running.

One thing that I do think could be improved in UAC would be to allow specific programs the right to change settings. Although that in itself would open up security holes, I suppose.

[AuRoRa]

ah-ha... ok , nice point there Drags..

:D it does refer to a better version , so thats kinda a plus point... So let me re-state my opinion then -

I DONT FEEL that its neccesary at home , due to the fact that its a more secure enviroment..


:D

[SlipperyDuck]

Right Here's something i posted on MyBroadband about the windows update failure:
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AHA! Since I installed Win7 (inplace upgrade), I was unable to avtivate via the internet or do windows updates.

I tried all manner of things to get it going, including logging a ticket with microsoft all leading me down a garden path of disappointment.

Then it dawned on me (Now a week or two later) to run the update and from the command prompt see where my machine was connecting to.

TADA! I found that a previous Proxy setting I installed from proxycfg was still there and even though IE didnt have the proxy settings, the netsh(Windows secure network thingy) did. It was this hidden proxy config that was causing my issues.

to see if you have something similar go the command prompt as Administrator:
Click - Start [in the search for programs] - type cmd, then right-click CMD.exe that shows up as a result above, Choose run as Administrator and say YES.

now at the command prompt see if you have a proxy config:
netsh winhttp dump

I did, so I changed it like so:
netsh winhttp reset proxy

Problem solved.

[J_Th4ng]

:eek: ^^^ Does anyone understand what he's saying? :hmmm:

[Megageth]

Allow me to translate:

"I had a problem with my pc so complex that none of you are nerdy enough to understand it. I then found a solution so complex that none of you are nerdy enough to have thought of it. I am sharing the solution here, not because any of you are likely to need it, but because I am staking a claim for clan uber nerd."

... something like that anyways, my nerdspeak is rusty.

[SlipperyDuck]

No, no, you were close tho.

Translation: Fk you o'z are doff, like WTF I'm l33t, I be in yer base steeling all yer Armourz....roflcopter...lolz...Zomg

[AuRoRa]

Im reeeeaaaallyyy worried then , cause i understood that......clearly im a nerd then.. fukt , i even understood his last post ^^ so that means im fluent in Bi-Lee-Ngwal and Nerd-I-Are...

:please: HELP!!