The "Elephant" Thread
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:31 pm
Good Evening Grrrbians...
Time to open up the floor to discussion about the "Elephant" in the room...
I'm going to raise two issues in this thread, and everyone is welcome to agree, disagree, debate, etc
The only rule is that it needs to be constructive so that we can resolve the matter,
there is no use in this thread degrading into a bitch fest... as nothing will come of it.
Issue 1: The family'ness of Grrr
When I joined Grrr the clan was mainly focused on BF and all things BF, there were a few people that played other games
but the majority of activity was around BF. As time passed things started to change, new games and new players,
and thanks to DICE for breaking BF4 we had a large shift in gaming mentality within the clan.
Phats did a great job at attempting to get the guys to experience new games together, possibly getting the clan into new areas of gaming
and teamplay.
More time passed and the CS:GO game took off well, which was great for the clan, however, it also swung the clan around to be more CS:GO focused
(with a couple of other games on the side) Tyger has held down the fort well with attempts to bring everyone together as a family, no matter the choice of game.
Now here is my view on this:
It shouldn't matter what game you play (no matter what your poison is) but the Grrr family comes first...
This is where the actual rift in the clan has formed (some are well aware of it, some are hoping it will go away if they don't talk about it)
No matter what your view on it... we now have the two distinct groups in the clan:
Group 1 : 'The oldies' - These are the players that care 70% about the Grrr family and 30% about the game they are playing
Group 2 : 'The young'uns' - These are the players that care 20% about the Grrr family and 80% about the game they are playing
Now i'm not saying that this is the fault of the clan leader(s), or individual player(s) or anything of the sort,
however it is up to everyone one of us to fix this rift... or risk the inward collapse / divide of Grrr!
My Suggestions:
- Recruitment needs to be split up in to two sections... if you pass the question phase you get a [grr_] tag, once you officially meet the Grrr family at rage
(or possibly an alternative meet) then you shall be upgraded to the [grrr] tag... as you are now one of us.
- For those already recruited and who we aren't really part of the Grrr family, we need to inform them of the new process (Possibly demote them to the [grr_] tag)
Your Suggestions?
(Remember... keep it constructive)
Issue 2: (the shorter issue) TeamSpeak - The use of chat
There is a growing number of players that no longer see the benefit of hoping onto TS... they simply log into their game of choice and go on their merry way.
I remember the days when it was difficult to get a word in as the TS was so busy, evenings of crazy laughter and the most random shit one could think of...
now i can log on and sit in TS by myself for hours on end... not a soul to be seen!
This issue has no fix that management need to implement, just a little bit of effort from each player...
When you are playing, hop onto TS and join your family.
If you are the only person in the channel for your game... come join the other channels and chat!
Conclusion... I have not been in the clan for as long as some of you furniture pieces, but i've been around long enough
Here are my views on the current members (the list was stolen from Tyger's post)
Players that are active in game and active in the Grrr family:
Atomicduzt
BadA$$jack
DryMan
EGGMAN
Firesyde
flycatchr
GOLLI88
Hubris
Irish_Luck28
Kill_Inc
Kyuubidemon
Megageth
Musketeer
NiteShade
NoMaD
Onyx
Paul
Phatso
Reaper
RussianElite
s3xy_j0nny
SlipperyDuck
Thor_23
TygerBS
Voetsek_Mikey
Stu
Dragonne
kmckelvin (Nimbz)
The Others:
SloDaz ~ Newly returned to gaming, so may have an excuse
Ecko7 ~ Has gone from active to hardly heard from
Giftig ~ Have not spoken to or met this individual
janpan ~ Have not spoken to or met this individual
dirtypora ~ I believe real life has kidnapped him
BigBadBarts ~ I believe real life has kidnapped him
kalgat ~ I believe real life has kidnapped him
Skouperd ~ I believe real life has kidnapped him
baselineac ~ no clue who this individual is
BU5T3R ~ no clue who this individual is
duiwel ~ no clue who this individual is
gr@v1ty ~ no clue who this individual is
Jackal-GI ~ no clue who this individual is
L3pr3c4un ~ no clue who this individual is
pmurgs ~ no clue who this individual is
Scorpyon ~ no clue who this individual is
Sorry for the wall of text.
Time to open up the floor to discussion about the "Elephant" in the room...
I'm going to raise two issues in this thread, and everyone is welcome to agree, disagree, debate, etc
The only rule is that it needs to be constructive so that we can resolve the matter,
there is no use in this thread degrading into a bitch fest... as nothing will come of it.
Issue 1: The family'ness of Grrr
When I joined Grrr the clan was mainly focused on BF and all things BF, there were a few people that played other games
but the majority of activity was around BF. As time passed things started to change, new games and new players,
and thanks to DICE for breaking BF4 we had a large shift in gaming mentality within the clan.
Phats did a great job at attempting to get the guys to experience new games together, possibly getting the clan into new areas of gaming
and teamplay.
More time passed and the CS:GO game took off well, which was great for the clan, however, it also swung the clan around to be more CS:GO focused
(with a couple of other games on the side) Tyger has held down the fort well with attempts to bring everyone together as a family, no matter the choice of game.
Now here is my view on this:
It shouldn't matter what game you play (no matter what your poison is) but the Grrr family comes first...
This is where the actual rift in the clan has formed (some are well aware of it, some are hoping it will go away if they don't talk about it)
No matter what your view on it... we now have the two distinct groups in the clan:
Group 1 : 'The oldies' - These are the players that care 70% about the Grrr family and 30% about the game they are playing
Group 2 : 'The young'uns' - These are the players that care 20% about the Grrr family and 80% about the game they are playing
Now i'm not saying that this is the fault of the clan leader(s), or individual player(s) or anything of the sort,
however it is up to everyone one of us to fix this rift... or risk the inward collapse / divide of Grrr!
My Suggestions:
- Recruitment needs to be split up in to two sections... if you pass the question phase you get a [grr_] tag, once you officially meet the Grrr family at rage
(or possibly an alternative meet) then you shall be upgraded to the [grrr] tag... as you are now one of us.
- For those already recruited and who we aren't really part of the Grrr family, we need to inform them of the new process (Possibly demote them to the [grr_] tag)
Your Suggestions?
(Remember... keep it constructive)
Issue 2: (the shorter issue) TeamSpeak - The use of chat
There is a growing number of players that no longer see the benefit of hoping onto TS... they simply log into their game of choice and go on their merry way.
I remember the days when it was difficult to get a word in as the TS was so busy, evenings of crazy laughter and the most random shit one could think of...
now i can log on and sit in TS by myself for hours on end... not a soul to be seen!
This issue has no fix that management need to implement, just a little bit of effort from each player...
When you are playing, hop onto TS and join your family.
If you are the only person in the channel for your game... come join the other channels and chat!
Conclusion... I have not been in the clan for as long as some of you furniture pieces, but i've been around long enough
Here are my views on the current members (the list was stolen from Tyger's post)
Players that are active in game and active in the Grrr family:
Atomicduzt
BadA$$jack
DryMan
EGGMAN
Firesyde
flycatchr
GOLLI88
Hubris
Irish_Luck28
Kill_Inc
Kyuubidemon
Megageth
Musketeer
NiteShade
NoMaD
Onyx
Paul
Phatso
Reaper
RussianElite
s3xy_j0nny
SlipperyDuck
Thor_23
TygerBS
Voetsek_Mikey
Stu
Dragonne
kmckelvin (Nimbz)
The Others:
SloDaz ~ Newly returned to gaming, so may have an excuse
Ecko7 ~ Has gone from active to hardly heard from
Giftig ~ Have not spoken to or met this individual
janpan ~ Have not spoken to or met this individual
dirtypora ~ I believe real life has kidnapped him
BigBadBarts ~ I believe real life has kidnapped him
kalgat ~ I believe real life has kidnapped him
Skouperd ~ I believe real life has kidnapped him
baselineac ~ no clue who this individual is
BU5T3R ~ no clue who this individual is
duiwel ~ no clue who this individual is
gr@v1ty ~ no clue who this individual is
Jackal-GI ~ no clue who this individual is
L3pr3c4un ~ no clue who this individual is
pmurgs ~ no clue who this individual is
Scorpyon ~ no clue who this individual is
Sorry for the wall of text.

