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Hi guys

As mentioned in the previous thread, I want to get this ball rolling for us to learn as much as possible about Battlefield 4 before and during the games release.

Lets keep the discussions on topic and always post sources.

Can we try keep this thread text heavy as opposed to image heavy please. Post links to large images.

Get your knowledge sharing on chaps!

*EDIT: multiposting goodness bitches. FORMATTING FIXING.... Struggling to edit posts but will try sort this stuff out..

The next load of posts from me are going to be from a thread on reddit. An all encompassing thread with HEAPS of info.
Sauce = http://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield_4/comments/1jfwc2/every_confirmed_bf4_feature_alpha_files/

This is an attempt to create a list containing every single (relevant) feature of BF4. Keep in mind that every item written in italics is not confirmed and has only been seen in the leaked Alpha Files [AF] (it might not be in the final game!).
This list is currently a work in progress! If you have seen a picture/video that might help this compilation, please send me a link! Also, if you have seen any of the things labelled AF in-game, let me know.
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The Game
· Platforms: PC, Xbox 360, PS3, Xbox One and PS4
· Release Date (US): October 29th on PC, Xbox 360 and PS3
· Release Date (UK): November 1st on PC, Xbox 360 and PS3
· Standard Edition (Pre-Order)[$59.99]:
· Base Game
· China Rising DLC
· Digital Deluxe Edition (Pre-Order|PC ONLY)[$69.99]:
· Base Game
· China Rising DLC
· Access to the BETA
· 3 Gold Battlepacks
Battlelog <Video>
· Battle Screen: It is an interactive map that can be used in every device that can access to battlelog
· Missions: Create specific 'assignments' to challenge your friends
· Loadouts: You can customize your loadouts on various devices while playing
· Geo Leaderboards: Get specific leader boards based on your location (Optional)
· Shows K/D, W/L and SPM graphs
· In-game battlelog shows the next map in the server rotation <Source>
Spectator Mode <Video>
· Table top, first person, 3rd person and free cam views
· You can put up to 5 cameras around the map and quickly change between them
· You can change between players in the tabletop view or in the score leaderboard
· Player info visible in 3rd person view
Commander Mode <Video>
· Available on all platforms and tablets
· Commanders do not occupy slots on servers
· Ability to give orders to specific squad leaders
· They can also drop vehicles and supply crates
· The commander is able to see the first person view of squad leaders
· The assets you are able to deploy depends on the flags captured by your team
· Commander assets on Siege of Shanghai: UAV, EMP, Tomahawk Missile, Gunship, Infantry Scan
General
· No co-op missions
· Some sort of practice mode
· You will now occasionally get Battlepacks, which may contain unlocks, camos and XP boosters
· 64 players and 60 fps for next-gen consoles
· VoIP for PC
Game Modes
· Conquest
· Rush
· TDM *AF
· SDM *AF
· Domination *AF
· Elimination *AF
· Obliteration *AF
· Playground *AF
Game Mechanics
· Suppression tweaked (more effective on LMGs and Sniper Rifles & only present at long ranges)
· Dynamic/Interactive maps (elevators, bollards, etc.)
· 5-man squads
· Kill assists of ~75+ (exact number unknown) are now counted as kills
· Possible to use pistols/C4 while swimming
· Sprint-swim & short dives
· Pistols are customizable
· The M26 MASS and the M320 are partially customizable
· New perk system (based on squad points)
· You lose one tier of squad perks if your squad gets wiped
· Magazine discard in Hardcore
· Defibrillators now need to be charged in order to revive at full health
· Counter-knifing added (only possible when knifed from the front)
· Ability to zero sniper rifles' scopes
· Vehicle hits now are awarded with points
Small Changes
· Better 3rd person animations <Source>
· Expanded minimap now takes up the whole screen
· When capturing a base, the icon no longer blocks the player's view
· Spotting animation (aesthetic)
· Parachute "ripcord" animation (aesthetic)
· Parachutes seem easier to control
· Throwable gadgets seem to have better physics
· C4 can slide on the ground a short distance
· Flashbang-like effect when you get revived
· Pilots now keep their uniform after exiting the vehicle <Could be a bug><Source>
· 'Bad Luck' deaths were changed to 'Killed in Action'
· 'Suicide' button changed to 'Redeploy'
Rumours
· Possible 70+ players on next-gen consoles and PC <Source>
· Metro and Caspian Border coming back in Second Assault DLC <Source>

Classes
ASSAULT
Weapons(Assault Rifles): <Source>
· AEK-971 <Screenshot>
· AK-12 <Screenshot>
· AUG A3
· CZ-805 <Screenshot>
· M14A3
· M16
· M416
· QBZ-95 <Screenshot>
· SAR-21
· SCAR-H
· FAMAS
Gadgets:
· Health Box
· Health Pack (can stick to players and vehicles)
· Defibrillators
· M26 MASS [Buckshot, Flechette, Slug, Frag] *AF
· M320 [Flashbang, HE, LVG, Smoke] *AF
SUPPORT
Weapons(LMGs):
· M249 <Screenshot>
· QJY-88 <Screenshot>
· U-100 MK5 <Screenshot>
Gadgets:
· Ammo Box
· Ammo Pack (can stick to players and vehicles)
· XM25 CDTE [Airburst, Smoke] *AF <Screenshot>
ENGINEER
Weapons(PDWs):
· CZ-3A1 <Screenshot>
· P90 <Screenshot>
· UMP-45 *AF
Gadgets:
· RPG-7v2
· FIM-92 Stinger
· MBT-LAW <Screenshot>
· AT Mines
· Repair Tool
RECON
Weapons(Sniper Rifles):
· Scout Elite <Source>
· SV-98
· M40A5 *AF
Gadgets:
· Motion Balls <Screenshot>
· PLD <Screenshot>
· T-UGS
· C4
ALL KITS
Pistols:
· 93R
· G17 <Screenshot>
· M9 <Screenshot>
· MP412 REX <Screenshot>
· QSZ-92 <Screenshot>
Shotguns:
· Hawk 12G <Screenshot>
· Saiga-12K <Screenshot>
· Serbu Super Shorty (Might be SP only) <Screenshot>
· Remington 870 *AF
Carbines:
· AK5C <Screenshot>
· M4A1 <Screenshot>
DMRs:
· M39 EMR
· QBU-88
· RFB <Screenshot>
Grenades:
· M67 Frag
· M84 Flashbang
· M34 Incendiary <GIF>
· M15 Smoke *AF
Battle Pick-ups:
· M82A3 [.50 cal, ~15% damage to helicopters] <Screenshot>
· M32 MGL <Screenshot>
Knifes:
· M9 Bayonet
· Shank
Specializations:
· Defensive
· Offensive
Perks:
· Ammo Boost
· Explosive Boost
· Explosive Resist
· Grenade Boost
· Heal Speed Boost
· Sprint Boost
· Suppression Boost
· Suppression Resist
· Squad Sharing? *AF

Attachments <Source>
OPTICS:
· Iron Sights
· Ghost Ring [-Pistols ONLY-]
· Delta[RDS] [-Pistols ONLY-]
· Reflex[RDS]
· Coyote[RDS]
· Holographic[1x]
· PKA-S[1x]
· M145[3.4x]
· PK-A[3.4x]
· ACOG[4x]
· PSO-1[4x]
· JGM-4[4x]
· CL6X[6x]
· Hunter[20x] [-Sniper Rifles ONLY-]
· (Alpha Files also mention 8x and 40x scopes)
BARREL:
· Standard Barrel
· Muzzle Brake
· Suppressor [-Available on Pistols-]
· Duckbill [-Shotguns ONLY-]
· Compensator [-Pistols ONLY-]
· QSW-06 Suppressor [-Pistols ONLY-]
ACCESSORY(TOGGLEABLE):
· Red Laser Pointer [-Available on Pistols-]
· Green Laser Pointer [-Available on Pistols-]
· Tactical Light [-Available on Pistols-]
· Magnifier[2x]
· Canted Iron-sights
· Variable Zoom[14x] [-Sniper Rifles ONLY-]
UNDERBARREL[-CARBINES|ASSAULT RIFLES|LMGS ONLY-]:
· Vertical Grip
· Angled Grip
· Bipod
· Underslung Rail [-Assault Rifles ONLY-]
AUXILIARY[-SNIPER RIFLES ONLY-]:
· (Bipod?)
· This replaces the underbarrel attachment slot on sniper rifles, however I don't know what goes in here.
SHOTGUN AMMO:
(I can not find a picture/video showing the customization screen of shotguns. I'm guessing there is also a new slot that replaces the underbarrel attachment)
· Buckshot
· Flechete *AF
· Frag *AF
· Slug *AF

Vehicles <Source>
NEW FEATURES:
· Camos
· Emblems <Source>
· Lock-On Indicators <Source>
· Slowly Rechargeable Ammo
· Equipped upgrades visible on spawn screen <Source>
· Countermeasures now have a cooldown timer
· Flares don't break the lock by just activating them, but instead each flare can be locked onto which is what breaks the lock
· Better Physics
· Helicopters are more maneuverable and nimble but have more momentum
· While in passenger seats, you can look around in a wider angle than in BF3
MBT
Driver

1. Primary Weapon:

· 120MM AP Shell
· HE Shell
· APFSDS Shell *AF

1. Secondary Weapon:

· Coaxial LMG
· Coaxial HMG
· ATGM *AF
· Canister Shell *AF

1. Countermeasure:

· IR Smoke
· Brass Graphite Launcher? *AF <Might be smoke for breaking laser locks><Real Life>
· Extinguisher *AF
· Iron Fist *AF <Real Life>

1. Optics:

· Zoom Optics
· ENVG Optics? *AF <Might be the regular IRNV><Real Life>
· IRNV Optics *AF

1. Upgrades:

· Maintenance
· Reactive Armor *AF
· Stealth *AF
Gunner

1. Optics:

· IRNV Optics
· Zoom Optics
· FLIR Optics? *AF <Might be the regular IRNV><Real Life???>
· SOFLAM? *AF <Could the SOFLAM in vehicles become a gunner upgrade?>

1. Upgrade:

· Proximity Scanner
· Belt Speed *AF
· WP Smoke? *AF <I don't know why this appears as a gunner upgrade> <Real Life>
ATTACK HELICOPTER
Pilot

1. Primary Weapon:

· Hydra Rocket Pods
· Zuni Rocket Pods
· Hell Fire Missiles *AF <Might be a secondary>

1. Secondary Weapon:

· Heat Seekers

1. Countermeasure:

· IR Flares
· ECM Jammer *AF
· Extinguisher *AF

1. Upgrades:

· Stealth
· Air Radar *AF
· Autoloader *AF
· Autopilot? *AF <Unknown>
· Below Radar *AF
· Laser Designator *AF
· Maintenance *AF
· Proximity Scanner *AF
· Rocket Guidance *AF
Gunner

1. Secondary Weapon:

· Guided Missile
· TOW *AF
· TV Guided Missile *AF

1. Gunner Optics:

· IRNV Optics
· Zoom Optics
· ENVG Optics? *AF <...>

1. Upgrade:

· Autoloader
· Maintenance *AF
· Proximity Scanner *AF
· Stealth *AF
ATTACK BOATS

1. Primary Weapon:

· 30MM HE Shell
· Burst Shell

1. Secondary Weapon:

· Anti-Air Missile
· ATGM
· TOW

1. Countermeasure:

· IR Smoke
· Brass Graphite Launcher? *AF <...>
· Extinguisher *AF
· Iron Fist *AF

1. Optics:

· Zoom Optics
· ENVG Optics? *AF <...>
· IRNV Optics *AF

1. Upgrade:

· Maintenance
· Air Radar *AF
· Autoloader *AF
· Proximity Scanner *AF
· Reactive Armor *AF
· Thermal Coating *AF <Stealth?>
NON-UPGRADABLE VEHICLES
· Transport Helicopters [1 Pilot, 2 Gunners, 2 Passengers]
· Light Armored Vehicles [1 Driver, 1 Gunner, 2 Passengers]
· Jet Skis [1 Pilot, 1 Passenger]
All of the following vehicles and upgrades were found in the leaked Alpha Files. A lot of speculation below this point!
ANTI AIR VEHICLE [ALPHA FILES]
· Secondary Weapon:
· Active Radar Rockets? <Unknown>
· Air-burst Rockets
· Heat Seeking Missiles
· Missiles? <Simple Unguided Missiles?>
· Countermeasure:
· Brass Graphite Launcher? <...>
· IR Smoke
· Iron Fist
· Optics:
· ENVG Optics? <...>
· IRNV Optics
· Zoom Optics
· Upgrade:
· Air Radar
· Belt Speed
· Maintenance
· Proximity Scanner
· Reactive Armor
· Stealth
INFANTRY FIGHTING VEHICLES [ALPHA FILES]
Driver
· Primary/Secondary Weapons:
· Main Shell <Not Specified>
· Air Burst Shell
· APFSDS-T
· Coaxial [LMG?]
· Flechette Cannister
· TOW
· Countermeasure:
· Brass Graphite Launcher? <...>
· Extinguisher
· IR Smoke
· Iron Fist
· Optics:
· ENVG Optics? <...>
· IRNV Optics
· Zoom Optics
· Upgrade:
· Autoloader
· Maintenance
· Reactive Armor
· Stealth
Gunner
· Optics:
· FLIR Optics? <...>
· IRNV Optics
· SOFLAM <...>
· Zoom Optics
· Upgrade:
· Belt Speed
· Proximity Scanner
· WP Smoke? <...>
SCOUT HELICOPTERS [ALPHA FILES]
· Secondary Weapon:
· Anti Air Missiles
· ATGM
· Countermeasure:
· ECM Jammer
· Extinguisher
· IR Flares
· Upgrades:
· Air Radar
· Autopilot? <...>
· Belt Speed
· [Proximity?] Scan
· Stealth
The Alpha Files mention two different kind of jet upgrades (atkjet upgrades and jet upgrades). I don't want to make assumptions out of this so I'll just split the upgrades into two categories.
ATKJET [ALPHA FILES]
· Weapons:
· Main Cannon <Not Specified>
· Heat Seeker Stance? <Probably just the regular heatseekers>
· Maverick Missiles
· Rocket Stance? <Unknown>
· TV Guided Missile
· Countermeasures:
· ECM Jammer
· Extinguisher
· IR Flares
· Upgrades:
· Autopilot? <...>
· Belt Speed
· Proximity Scan
· Stealth
JET [ALPHA FILES]
· Weapons:
· Main Cannon <Not Specified>
· 25mm Cannon
· 30mm Cannon
· Active Radar Missiles? <...>
· Guided Homing Missiles
· Heat Seeker Stance? <...>
· Maverick Missiles
· Countermeasures:
· ECM Jammer
· Extinguisher
· IR Flares
· Upgrades:
· Autopilot? <...>
· Belt Speed
· Proximity Scanner
· Stealth

Fantastic thread.....excite = fever pitch

Holy Moley! How long did it take to get this all together? IS this going to change at all after the alpha and beta tests?


One more thing, whether we compete in hardcore competitions or do our own versions I would strongly suggest we everyone tries pick up games. I played a few over the weekend and it was very fun.

Played a Siene match where both rounds went below 100. You get to know people and you do learn a lot. Strangely enough I was SL for the infantry and manage to finish with a healthy KDR, long time since that happened in a match.

I think we need to get members to specialise from the get go in certian positions. Ex: Tanker, Medic ect..

RussianElite. wrote:I think we need to get members to specialise from the get go in certian positions. Ex: Tanker, Medic ect..

agreed, this way you will get majority experience where you need it for the league

HE GOES FOR THE REVIVE AND HE MAKES IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWRRRRRRRRRRRR


Very cool interview in Swedish with DICE:
http://youtu.be/EqZlqoldeh4?t=14m12s
Turn on English subs, but someone in this reddit was kind enough to put them all together.


Some keypoints I took out (TLDR):
- Reference is made to 1942, 2 and 3. "There is no best battlefield game".
- DICE have built BF4 to be a great game first and have kept eSports in mind.
- The commander will not really part of the actual battlefield, but will be more strategic ("chess game where teams are your chess pieces")
- "Any army, on any side, on any map"; "US vs RU, RU vs US, China vs RU, RU vs China, China vs US...etc"
- "on PC you will get custom UI and HUD. And you can scale those"
- Improved netcode / hit-reg
- Improved patching/updating


And a funny Jackfrags vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xNgWeOXKYQ