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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 2:02 pm
by Hubris
Hahaha I think we all need to just take a step back and a couple deep breaths. It's just a game okes we don't need to get mad with each other. I'm often guilty of this myself and let me tell you it achieves nothing. The most important thing we need to do right now is stick together as a team and work with each other. Whether we aim to have fun or to win, without a team we are nothing.

We have potential guys, we all know how to play Battlefield, we just need to go up a gear if we want to be competitive. That means losing and improving. Yes it's demoralising to lose but the reason we are in this situation in this first case is because we have made concessions in the past. We are one dimensional and rely heavily on individuals to make something happen.

If we want to win consistently, we have to go through that growing process and it will hurt. In fact the more it hurts the better as long as we don't fall apart as a team. If I may go back to that motivational video I posted. Winning isn't about that KO punch, winning is about getting beat to your knees but getting back up and keeping coming. That is how winning is done.

Ion I don't know why you feel like that. You're right, we do need to be more proactive and we do need to improve on our strengths; but if we just focus on our strengths we will be the same team we were last year while everyone else evolves. The world waits for no one. I believe Tyger is hearing you and believe me it's not easy. He is trying to take everyone's view into consideration and choose the right path amongst chaos.

Thats not an exact science and its not easy to make everyone feel like they are being heard with so many competing pressures and priorities. We won't always agree and we won't always like our orders; but nothing worth doing is easy. Hang in there guys. We will get to the other maps. We only need to be proficient on them in the next leg. This leg is all about building our skills and tactics so we can earn Premier status.

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 2:05 pm
by NoMaD
So from what I gathered last night on metro, and contrary to some individuals beliefs, was that when we stacked easy side with 5 guys it was the only time we really looked like we would break through and we did until we got taken down in bottom lockers due to the last guy having to try and rez everyone. If we had 2 extra guys I think we could have held and rezed everyone and pushed mad hard onto office and then cap B. with the right smoke and the proper allocation of arcs of fire we could make a mass push work. This was the only time i really felt like we had a chance of cracking it, and tbh I have been pooned a lot on easy to know when i see a ray of light.

Now i feel we are getting to emotional right now and in this thread instead of just reflecting on what happened in the game and coming up with solutions.

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 2:13 pm
by Hubris
Nomad you massive bell end. I don't mind stacking a side if we do it properly. You must understand I dont take a view and that's the end of it. I don't know where we get this picture from but all those involved in the brains trust have shown flexibility, so stop polarising people and trying to make someone wrong and someone right. We try something, if it doesn't work, we try something else.

All 8 of us running around the corner at the same time is not going to work though. We've proven that doent work. However, if we put two guys on clinic, one with smoke and one with meds, we can smoke up the centre of the hall so they don't get easy shots on easy. Then the easy guys can use one smoker to just do touch ups and the others can rush in short waves to break through.

That could work, but that's not exactly what was proposed so don't play the I told you so card.

Whatever we decide to do specifically we can straighten out in practice. Lets just chill people this is not about this person or that person. This is about us. We are all in this together and we need to keep thinking like that or we will fall apart. Don't be passive aggressive saying some individuals, that's so gay. Call me out to my face and believe me I will hear you.

But we can't have 12 chiefs, Tyger and I make decisions for our squads and Tyger makes the last call. That's an interactive process and we will make mistakes, dwelling and being bitter about the mistakes achieves nothing.

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 2:20 pm
by TygerBS
Lee we have learnt a lot from metro so far. We have learnt the things that don't work.
We have learnt that our support play is bad.
We have learnt that our long range shooting is poor.
Ooh we knew that before...maybe...but seeing it clearly demonstrated makes it actually sink in.
We have learnt about timing, and each time we do it, it will get better.
We are also learning to get rapped.

Yes moral is important, i agree.
But you learn most from losing not from winning. If any of you doubt that then you more problems than just bf3 gaming.

I am going to state it again. If you do not read this then there is nothing i can do.
We are playing metro in our games against the TOP teams to learn, what they do, and to improve the skills we lack.
We played to our strengths ALL year last year, and thats fine. It does not help us improve.
I am driving our team to be improved. That is all.
We have one last game v a TOP tear team this next week, then we have our first real chance of a win v TE.
This is our focus!
We have a real chance to beat TE, SIB, RFH and ASF Hawks.
The other games...as i have stated so many times before we are treating as practices.

Now are we going have an argument about the direction I have stated we going in? Or are we going to suck it up and do what we must to make it work?

Which is it?

Cause quite frankly if you don't like the direction i have chosen that's fine.
Feel fire to let me know, so i can go find something better to do with my time.

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 2:21 pm
by Paul
You know what we need? We need a server invasion night!!!!

A night where we get as many people on a pub server and we have FUN, with an objective of playing in the correct structure but still just for fun. Get some team spirit going!

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 2:26 pm
by Hubris
Ya I agree Paul. Lets have some fun, we need to foster team spirit in our own time. But I don't like the idea that it must happen instead of practice because we are not into giving an inch more than we do already. Whether it be conquest, squad rush or TDM we just want to fuck around which is not practice.

When this team shows it has the maturity to practicr properly then maybe Tyger will give us a chance but honestly we don't deserve it because we all know we will abuse it and make it as unproductive as possible. Bottom line, show Tyger we can do a pub night and it will happen.

I stick by Tyger. This team is still behaving like a bunch of spoilt children and the attitudes are shocking. Most of the time, this team doesn't deserve the kind of leaders it has. Square your shit away people, be disciplined and be productive. Tyger is doing his part, do yours me included.

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 2:36 pm
by SlipperyDuck
it's simple we do what the boss says, we have our say, but at the end of the day we follow our leader.

Tyger, whip us tiny ego mangletts into shape, clearly we need it.
*nb, on the "FFS for the Millionth time" notion, YES WE UNDERSTAND WHY - we're just throwing out ideas n'all, prolly WRONG ideas but still, we throw them ;)

ps. COMMS from now on - SHUDDUP and say nothing, unless it's Important tactical information. (therefore you can LISTEN to your boss)

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 2:41 pm
by RussianElite.
Fuck all of you! No seriousley I cant wait to face the lower half of the Prem Division :P

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 2:48 pm
by Paul
RussianElite. wrote:Fuck all of you! No seriousley I cant wait to face the lower half of the Prem Division :P




You mean in cricket Russian?

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 3:00 pm
by s3xy_j0nny
I'm keen to try the idea of a bolt action to look down easy as RU side. It would only take 2 head shots to clear the left side of turnstiles and set up the ATM rush. Let me know if you rate the idea, Tigger, and I will give it a bash in the next Metro prac, otherwise I am going to try the AN94 or G3 - I am getting plenty hit markers but no kills with the AEK or M16 at distance. I'm also keen to try a blitz straight past ticket office and down orange if we can get B smoked up enough.