BC2 AGASA Leg 4

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Re: BC2 AGASA Leg 4

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SlipperyDuck wrote:so we will stay in 2nd division.


Aren't we in the First Division? As in, one below the Premier Div?
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Dang, I fail

You are correct sir, 3 points, spend them wisely
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Re: BC2 AGASA Leg 4

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I’m going to make a suggestion here for the next AGASA leg. In the interests of building team consistency and getting the best preparation for rAge, I think it makes sense that our first team selection be as consistent as possible between the AGASA 4th leg and the rAge comp.

For those of us that have been around long enough to remember it, the best performing BF team that we have ever had was during the 2008 season, where we finished 2nd in the AGASA league, and 3rd at rAge. It’s no co-incidence that, at that time, we had a small, very focussed, first team (the Baggers) that practiced together several times a week, and learned how to play together well.

If I contrast that with our current team and selection methodology, the differences are clear. I don’t think that we have selected the same team for any two games in the last AGASA league leg. On top of this, it seems that every game we’ve had last minute selection changes, where we’ve brought in an unpracticed player into the team on the evening of the league game.

For that reason I suggest that our primary team selection consist of players that are available for both the 4th leg of AGASA and rAge.

I know that a rAge comp has not yet been confirmed, but I’d like to work on the assumption that a way will be found to host BC2 at rAge, and that we will qualify for the comp. At the end of the day, rAge is the big one. It’s what we all look forward to every year, and regardless of whether the comp goes ahead, I want our team to be as prepared as possible when we get there.

As a result of the above, I suggest that our first choice team should consist of the following individuals:

Fly
J0nny
Leelo
Lep
Paul
Phatso
Shadey
Skoups
SloDaz
Voetsek

If I’ve counted properly, those are the ten people that are available for both AGASA Leg 4 and rAge.

What this means is that any other players that have made themselves available for Leg 4 or rAge would then become reserves, and only be eligible to play if three or more of the 10 first team players are not available for a match.

This means that Mega and I would not be included for the rAge team, and Murgs would not be in for the Leg 4 team. I know that Murgs and Mega are great players, and that their individual skills will be missed from the team, but I’m sure that they will agree with me that team consistency is a far greater contributing factor to success than individual skill – especially considering that all of the ten included players are pretty shit hot in their own right.

As an additional point, I’d also like to propose that we promote Daz to team captain. He’s shown a lot of initiative in driving things forward over the last few weeks, and that sort of enthusiasm should not go unpunished unrewarded. I’ve spoken with Lee about this, and he’s happy to step aside to give Darin the chance (in fact the conversation had to be paused for a couple of minutes while Lee finished laughing, air-punching, and running around the room with his jersey pulled over his head).

Big up’s to Lee for taking on the BF team captain role last year when he stepped down as clan leader. I don’t know how many people know this, but Lee took the job purely because there was no-one else to do it, and I promised him at the time that the role would be temporary. He had already given so much of himself as the 2008 – 2009 clan leader, and it seemed unfair to pile the extra requirements on him when he’d just made parole and escaped the clan leadership. With Daz showing the desire to manage the team, now is a perfect chance to let Lee get some rest (and hopefully spend some time getting the damn Sacred 2 MP to work ;) ).

Don’t forget of course that clan leader nominations will be coming up in the next short while (yep, my stint is up in a couple of months), so anyone who really wants to punish the Duck can nominate him as clan leader for another term... :p

Anyway, enough of the long-winded post. Anyone who doesn’t agree, put your case forward below. I promise that all contrary views will be read, carefully considered and discussed, then crumpled up, pissed on and summarily ignored because I am a dictator and didn’t type up this long post for the good of my health...

Thanks for your input.

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Re: BC2 AGASA Leg 4

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As an additional point, I’]

I said this a while ago but NOOOOO, no one listens to Paul!!!


Otherwise I agree with everything else you said.


BUT just to play devils advocate, what if Murgs and/or Mega could avail themselves for both Leg 4 and rAge before Leg 4 started? Despite both being hideously deformed as you said they are good players, both are better than me (individually and as team players) so who would make space for them, especially if the aim is to have a good showing?
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Paul wrote:BUT just to play devils advocate, what if Murgs and/or Mega could avail themselves for both Leg 4 and rAge before Leg 4 started? Despite both being hideously deformed as you said they are good players, both are better than me (individually and as team players) so who would make space for them, especially if the aim is to have a good showing?


That's easy. Your chimp arse would be out of the team faster than you could peel a banana...

Let's see what happens between now and the colse of registrations. As it stands NOW, we have 10 eligible players. If that changes in the next week or so, we can re-evaluate the situation.
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For once, Paul makes a decent point.

Mega, afaik, will be back for the second half of Leg 4, and is attending rAge. On top of that I'd say it's between murgs, mega and Lee as to who is our top tjop player.

murgs needs to pull finger and get a cheap ticket to JHB for rAge as he's possibly the only Bagger who played in every match in Leg 3 (I stand to be corrected) and is in a position to attend pracs and matches for the entirety of Leg 4, as well as being our most experienced BC2 player.

murgs, whay aren't you planning to come to rAge?
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Re: BC2 AGASA Leg 4

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[grrr wrote:s3xy_j0nny ]
For once, Paul makes a decent point.

Mega, afaik, will be back for the second half of Leg 4, and is attending rAge. On top of that I'd say it's between murgs, mega and Lee as to who is our top tjop player.

murgs needs to pull finger and get a cheap ticket to JHB for rAge as he's possibly the only Bagger who played in every match in Leg 3 (I stand to be corrected) and is in a position to attend pracs and matches for the entirety of Leg 4, as well as being our most experienced BC2 player.

murgs, whay aren't you planning to come to rAge?


The attempt that I'm trying to make here is one of consistency. We currently have a surfeit of talented players that want to play BC2 for GRRR. we need to manage down that team to a core squad that will play and learn together for an extended period, in order to improve our results. We all know how upsetting it's been not to win a single match over the last leg, especially when we know that we are better than that.

Would I want to have Murgs and Mega in the team? Of course I would. They are both fantastic players. But we also have a large number of other fantastic players in the clan. Regardless of how it's done, some people are going to have to become dedicated reserves for now. At least until we get enough dedicated players in order to field two full teams plus reserves. I suggested the squad as I did because of consistency, and a way to build a better team.

We have another 2 months this year before competitive gaming is effectively over. After rAge it dies until Jan/Feb. Until then, I'd like for GRRR to make a great showing, so that we can start off well placed for the 2011 league.

Remember, I'm also affected by this decision – I’m effectively ruling myself out of selection for the rAge team. I do this because I think it’s the best thing to do for the team.

Of course, should Murgs change his mind and get himself in on the rAge bandwagon (you should do mate, rAge is without a doubt the event of the year), we can relook at the team. I do think that the core group should max out at 10 players, with additional reserves available in case of emergencies
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Re: BC2 AGASA Leg 4

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I agree with promoting Daz. If appointed then I think he should be given 'lee'way to choose the team.
I really hope that we can muster a 2nd team for rage. Not sure if there will be some nasty do-gaming legislation surrounding entry though.
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I didn't want to staqrt a whole new thread but Vovo has posted saying that SSG would like a prac against us.

Now they will more than likely be in our league so it is a good way to gauge the level but as j0nny has pointed out , we usually come out of their practises worse off.

SO do we accept or not? Daz I think this is your call
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Paul wrote:I didn't want to staqrt a whole new thread but Vovo has posted saying that SSG would like a prac against us.

Now they will more than likely be in our league so it is a good way to gauge the level but as j0nny has pointed out , we usually come out of their practises worse off.

SO do we accept or not? Daz I think this is your call


Guys, I would like to pick up the practice and can only say that we should look at this as an opportunity to better ourselves. The one benefit is that we are starting to understand their tactics and if we are going to start climbing to the top of the league then we need to overcome and succeed against teams like this. In previous comments we all agreed that perhaps we are missing something.

I am going to have a personal word with Vovo and ask him for some advice on what we can do to better our game... i.e. ask his guys to be super critical of our game play... so the only question that remains is can we handle this and who is keen to play...

Our practice days are normally Tuesday or Thursday or could you make Wed? I have said that we will get back to him today or tomorrow with our decision.


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