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Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:17 am
by Skouperd
Oh, and Jarrod, socket 2011 doesn't just need to be paired with X79 chipset. I am running my main rig with chipset C602 which also include things like SAS support. At the end of the day, what you pay is what you get.
Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:42 am
by kmckelvin
Skouperd wrote:Ahem to that! I think I know why that is happening but yes, I have seen that too.
It was pretty clear what was happening when looking at the CPU graphs. The host OS (Windows Hyper-V Server) was allocating two logical cores of the same physical core to the VM instead of prioritising the primary core.
Skouperd wrote:However, I am prepare to bet you my rAge2014 ticket that when you increase your CPU speeds on your current rig that you will get better performance from your GPU thus your GPU is NOT your bottleneck.
No need to bet, I know the CPU will make a difference with my current rig. But if I go back to when I was running the Radeon 6970 I'm pretty convinced that the new graphics card has given me a bigger FPS boost than an equivalently priced CPU.
Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:47 am
by Skouperd
kmckelvin wrote:No need to bet, I know the CPU will make a difference with my current rig. But if I go back to when I was running the Radeon 6970 I'm pretty convinced that the new graphics card has given me a bigger FPS boost than an equivalently priced CPU.
Yes, an upgraded GPU will always give you a boost in FPS. A GPU is also the easiest thing to upgrade in a computer. Any gamer, and I mean any gamer, can unplug a GPU and plug in a new one. Now not every gamer has the knowledge, experience, skills and confidence to upgrade things like CPU's or rebuilt a complete system from scratch. Hence my recommendation that for somebody like Paul to get a solid platform and just change the GPU's as and when the games become an issue is a no-brainer. (and still keeping within his budget I should add).
Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:49 am
by kmckelvin
And hence, I agreed with that point

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:51 am
by Skouperd
kmckelvin wrote:And hence, I agreed with that point
Then stop arguing with me for FFS, your target is Tierjie and Jarrod...
Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 11:03 am
by Skouperd
Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 4:45 pm
by Megageth
Paul the question of AMD vs Nvidia, from what I've read:
AMD + Probable performance boost from Mantle for BF4, cards are good value
AMD - Reference cards are noisy and run hot, Crossfire still sounds like it has more issues than SLi
Nvidia + new cards have support for GSync and Shadowplay, run cooler and quieter than many AMD
Nvidia - slightly more expensive than AMD for similar performance, current versions wont run mantle (might be a + if Mantle is buggy)
Doubt you will go wrong with either.
Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 5:11 pm
by Skouperd
Mega, AMD cards are no longer as cheap (or good value for money) due to a supply shortage caused by bit coin (and similiar groups) of people using AMD cards for their mining. The demand as such have increased the demand for AMD cards thus causing the prices to increase. They are still marginally cheaper than NVidia, but not quite as much a difference as in the past.
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 7:53 am
by Paul
Got an email from Rebeltech, they got a shipment of R9 280X in most other places are out of stock, I think I will get this in the mean time because PC part prices are going to go up as the exchange rate gets worse
http://www.rebeltech.co.za/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=20&products_id=11135(This is R500 cheaper than a 770)
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 9:34 am
by Phatso
Paul wrote:(This is R500 cheaper than a 770)
You should most certainly look at GTX770 benchmarks then Paul. The difference in FPS is small but remember the AMD vs nVidia stuff (mantle vs shadowplay etc). Then it purely comes down to personal preference. I love my GTX770 and was an AMD fan for years.