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Re: Grrr playing on Public Servers
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:04 pm
by s3xy_j0nny
I've noticed that on the majority of occasions when joining on grrr players that they ARE side stacking and that it DOES severely imbalance the servers. On more than one occasion I have been disappointed by the conduct of grrr players in this regard. Either I join on the same side and it's boringly easy (and embarrassing to be seen butt-fucking a pack of noobs), or I join on the opposite team (or swop to help them out) and it's like getting face raped.
This disappointing conduct often extends to grrr players practically base camping a noob team in their uncap within minutes of capping all the flags.
I understand that we have some seriously good players and that not many open servers offer substantial resistance to a well-organised bunch of clan members, however, I would HATE for our clan to earn the reputation of side-stacking noob-stompers like Synergy.
Use your common sense; it's not just about numbers per side, it's about ability and rank. The excuse that we need to squad together to get used to each other can easily be countered by the argument that we can get that kind of practice in the scheduled Tues and Wed night sessions that lots of players seem to be oblivious to atm.
Practice in pairs, so that if we have 4 grrbians on a server, we have 2 vs 2 (I am speaking specifically to our leet players - you know who you are).
Remember that the tags you wear carry 6 years of reputation, regardless of how long you have had them before your name. Put honour above your stats. The open servers are not where the real legends are made - you earn that status from pwning in clan matches against other teams of organised soldiers, not pimp-slapping no names.
/5c
Re: Grrr playing on Public Servers
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:07 pm
by J_Th4ng
Point taken, Denis. The only thing I'd add to this is one of intent. When one thinks of stacking, it is usually considered when a group of players deliberately change teams in order to be on the same side.
Looking at your battle logs, this is clearly not the case. In fact, with the exception of me, everyone stayed on the same team that they started on for the entire evening. It's just an unfortunate situation that on the one side, most of the grrrbians left early, while they stayed on on the other side. Could we have done something about it? Yes. Should we have? I don't know.
Perhaps we need a published code of conduct for public servers? Something that says that whenever there are more than 3 people on the same server, those people should be spread as evenly as possible across both sides? It may seem extreme to do something like this, but it would keep it in people's minds.
Re: Grrr playing on Public Servers
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:05 pm
by SlipperyDuck
Also just a quick note, most of us want to practice somehow in their designated teams/squads, so while it's difficult to get everyone together for practice evenings, it's quick and easy to join up with fellow squad members on public if and when you see them. So we need to have that as a consideration.
Also, keep in mind that a small handful of 4 players on any one server stacked to one side is a bunch of friends playnig together, not necessarily stacking. Though 99% of the time we do distribute even in that scenario - last night is the exception I think, it wasnt intentional, just unfortunate that we were lumped with so many bad players stacking on the wrong side. Anyway, we will try to do better in future, no doubt.
Re: Grrr playing on Public Servers
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:30 pm
by Skouperd
s3xy_j0nny wrote:The open servers are not where the real legends are made - you earn that status from pwning in clan matches against other teams of organised soldiers, not pimp-slapping no names.
/5c
So, what you are actually saying is that "Legends are made in clan matches, while being a douchbag is confirmed on the public server..."
And the above is not aimed at ANYONE in GRRR before somebody else now takes my freaken head off again...
Re: Grrr playing on Public Servers
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:54 pm
by s3xy_j0nny
Skouperd wrote:... we as a clan need to be more aware of this in future as it does create an unfriendly environment for the rest of the community who was sitting on the losing team the whole night.
All that I am asking for, is that we just be more cautious when we play on public servers...
^This is the gist of this thread. To those accusing the author of this thread of complaining unnecessarily, take a moment to condsider this:
s3xy_j0nny wrote:Remember that the tags you wear carry 6 years of reputation, regardless of how long you have had them before your name.
Denis' post came out of concern for our reputation within the SA community. Woe betide anyone who considers this unworthy of mentioning.

Skouperd wrote:So, what you are actually saying is that "Legends are made in clan matches, while being a douchbag is confirmed on the public server..."
Yup. To use Synergy as an example again: Those of us who have played against them in clannies and met them in person recognise that they are a team of exceptional fps players who gel as a team and as a result brush aside all but the best competition. The majority of SA players however, (those that play on he open servers) would say that they are a bunch of douchebags who side stack the open servers and make the game unpleasant for pretty much anyone else on the server with them.
Re: Grrr playing on Public Servers
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:46 pm
by Paul
I am starting a fund for j0nny and Skoup, just need a couple hundred bucks so they can get a motel room.
/Joking, I think everyone understand the meaning of this thread and that in future we won't have any of these issues, perceived or real
Re: Grrr playing on Public Servers
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:57 pm
by Megageth
As a side note, Lep and I were playing last night against a stacked server of SiB. When the sides became too uneven, I asked them to balance and they did.
Re: Grrr playing on Public Servers
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:17 pm
by s3xy_j0nny
A possible solution for when we want to squad up in numbers:
" wrote:K BFC got a 32 and 55 player server up.
Clan stacking is welcome/encouraged. We have limited it to 55 for now just to see how the lag goes.
" wrote:I don't mean clan stacking as in bfc/boc/sg all on one side whipping some noobs, i mean like fib and sg on one side while boc, bfc and nsd rock the other side

That type of thing. Most of the bfc okes will be on every other night so if you have a clan with 7-10 okes who want to jam together then bring it

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