Re: Nerds'advice needed
Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 7:20 pm
Skouperd wrote:
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Re: Nerds'advice needed
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:23 pm
You can save A LOT of money by sourcing it through private means.
I bought a system for R 27 000. Had I been capable/willing to source the parts and build it myself, I could have saved myself about R 7 000-ish (and pissed it away on other shit I didn't need, instead).
All retail outlets and such have big overheads they need to cover, so they have to load prices, to turn profits.
At the end of the day, all business is in it for the money.
That said, if you can afford it, there is some peace of mind in knowing if something goes wrong, you take it back to the supplier, and tell them to fix it under the warrantee. Hasn't happened yet, but I seldom use my PC any more.
I bought a system for R 27 000. Had I been capable/willing to source the parts and build it myself, I could have saved myself about R 7 000-ish (and pissed it away on other shit I didn't need, instead).
All retail outlets and such have big overheads they need to cover, so they have to load prices, to turn profits.
At the end of the day, all business is in it for the money.
That said, if you can afford it, there is some peace of mind in knowing if something goes wrong, you take it back to the supplier, and tell them to fix it under the warrantee. Hasn't happened yet, but I seldom use my PC any more.
Re: Nerds'advice needed
Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 2:18 pm
Jono, finnaly I've got some options for you.
I've got two options for you, basically the one uses an ATI card, the other an NVidia card, and the one exclude an SSD drive. I appreciate you said he is not in the mood to overclock, but I've included watercooling for both options and if he is prepared for it, I'll overclock it for him and still guarantee all the equipment as if it is brand new. IF he really doesn't feel like overclocking, then he could drop the H50 watercooling (costing R700). The CPU is quick enough that he doesn't really need overclocking.
Here goes:
Option 1 cost = R20,700
CPU: i7-950
MOBO: ASUS Rampage 3 Gene - Republic of Gamers - with USB3.0+SATA 6Gb/s
GPU: Asus ENGTX470/2DI/1280MD5
SSD: Kingston SNV425-S2/128GB SSD , MLC , 2.5" 128Gb , SATA2 , read : 200mb/sec / write 160mb/sec
HDD: Western Digital caviar Green WD15EARS 1500gb/1.5Tb, Sata3G
PSU: Corsair HX750
CASE: Coolermaster RC-690-KKN1 , CM690 black
RAM: 3 x 2GB kit - ddr3-1600 ( PC3-12800 ) , CL8
H2O: Corsair H50-1
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64Bit
DVD: Samsung SH-S243D
Option 2 cost = R17,700
CPU: i7-950
MOBO: ASUS Rampage 3 Gene - Republic of Gamers - with USB3.0+SATA 6Gb/s
GPU: Sapphire HD5870 Game edition
SSD: NONE
HDD: Western Digital caviar Green WD15EARS 1500gb/1.5Tb, Sata3G
PSU: Corsair HX750
CASE: Coolermaster RC-690-KKN1 , CM690 black
RAM: 3 x 2GB kit - ddr3-1600 ( PC3-12800 ) , CL8
H2O: Corsair H50-1
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64Bit
DVD: Samsung SH-S243D
I'll await comments from the rest of the guys on which one they'll prefer. IN the menatime, I've send you a personal mail containing more detail as well.
I've got two options for you, basically the one uses an ATI card, the other an NVidia card, and the one exclude an SSD drive. I appreciate you said he is not in the mood to overclock, but I've included watercooling for both options and if he is prepared for it, I'll overclock it for him and still guarantee all the equipment as if it is brand new. IF he really doesn't feel like overclocking, then he could drop the H50 watercooling (costing R700). The CPU is quick enough that he doesn't really need overclocking.
Here goes:
Option 1 cost = R20,700
CPU: i7-950
MOBO: ASUS Rampage 3 Gene - Republic of Gamers - with USB3.0+SATA 6Gb/s
GPU: Asus ENGTX470/2DI/1280MD5
SSD: Kingston SNV425-S2/128GB SSD , MLC , 2.5" 128Gb , SATA2 , read : 200mb/sec / write 160mb/sec
HDD: Western Digital caviar Green WD15EARS 1500gb/1.5Tb, Sata3G
PSU: Corsair HX750
CASE: Coolermaster RC-690-KKN1 , CM690 black
RAM: 3 x 2GB kit - ddr3-1600 ( PC3-12800 ) , CL8
H2O: Corsair H50-1
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64Bit
DVD: Samsung SH-S243D
Option 2 cost = R17,700
CPU: i7-950
MOBO: ASUS Rampage 3 Gene - Republic of Gamers - with USB3.0+SATA 6Gb/s
GPU: Sapphire HD5870 Game edition
SSD: NONE
HDD: Western Digital caviar Green WD15EARS 1500gb/1.5Tb, Sata3G
PSU: Corsair HX750
CASE: Coolermaster RC-690-KKN1 , CM690 black
RAM: 3 x 2GB kit - ddr3-1600 ( PC3-12800 ) , CL8
H2O: Corsair H50-1
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64Bit
DVD: Samsung SH-S243D
I'll await comments from the rest of the guys on which one they'll prefer. IN the menatime, I've send you a personal mail containing more detail as well.
Re: Nerds'advice needed
Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 2:45 pm
http://www.overclock.net/nvidia/715548-ati-radeon-hd-5870-vs-nvidia.html
Both are good rigs and we could argue all day about whats the best rig or bang/buck.
... What I will say is that if I were building a rig today I would consider the x6 AMD cpu's. As more games are becoming multi-threaded, the cheaper AMD 6 cores become more appealing vs Intel, who are probably more powerful core for core but more expensive too.
I see the Mobo handles cross-fire and SLi so no problems going with either card.
Both are good rigs and we could argue all day about whats the best rig or bang/buck.
... What I will say is that if I were building a rig today I would consider the x6 AMD cpu's. As more games are becoming multi-threaded, the cheaper AMD 6 cores become more appealing vs Intel, who are probably more powerful core for core but more expensive too.
I see the Mobo handles cross-fire and SLi so no problems going with either card.
Re: Nerds'advice needed
Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 2:59 pm
I've build a Hexa-core pc not too long ago for a friend, and I can confirm, that PC is really rocking along nicely. However, the clock speed (overclocking) on the i7's make them better suited for those single threaded apps still making the round, while hyperthreading enables the ability for the more multithreaded apps to get along. Either way, the AMD hexa core is a very cool CPU for the price and if I am out for a budget build, then I would agree with you 100% that the AMD-Hexa is a very worhtwhile consideration. However, at this price points, the AMD is slightly out of it's league.
Nice link on the graphics cards. Also, the nice thing about the 470, if ever he want to upgrade graphcis, then the 470 scales better in SLI than what two 5870's will do in crossfire. At the end of the day, they are both well balanced cards.
But I agree, one could argue endlessly on which one of the two are the best, if I was given the option between the two, I honestly would not know which one to pick. The real difference really comes in with an SSD or without it. I like the speed of the SSD, but they still go for a premium right now.
Anyevent, thanks for the heads up.
Nice link on the graphics cards. Also, the nice thing about the 470, if ever he want to upgrade graphcis, then the 470 scales better in SLI than what two 5870's will do in crossfire. At the end of the day, they are both well balanced cards.
But I agree, one could argue endlessly on which one of the two are the best, if I was given the option between the two, I honestly would not know which one to pick. The real difference really comes in with an SSD or without it. I like the speed of the SSD, but they still go for a premium right now.
Anyevent, thanks for the heads up.
Re: Nerds'advice needed
Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 4:23 pm
awesome, Denis, I will forward the info and get back to you asap.