GRRR Squad Forum

I don't think it is a case of not wanting to to LAN or play games. On the contrary I think that is what everyone wants. The issue is that we would all prefer to LAN BF3 together, so if BF3 isn't at rage but on another weekend then that should be the weekend. If BF3 is at rage but only for the DGL teams and for some reason we aren't invited what do we do then?

Basically it boils down to a well organises rAge/BF3/Grrr weekend is 1000 times better than a slapped together affair.

For example the XXXL weekend was epic not just because of the company but because it was planned well.

Paul wrote:If BF3 is at rage but only for the DGL teams and for some reason we aren't invited what do we do then?

Then we find something else to play.

I understand the clan's affiliation with BF3, but why MUST we play the latest and greatest game to have a blast of a time with 2000+ other gamers?

If by the time the tickets go on sale there haven't been confirmation on what is going on with DGL, then I'd say just shaft DGL and all 20+ of us go and sit in the public area with the remaining 2000+ GAMERS. Having to carry in your computer, standing in the queues, talking kak with the lighties in front of you, all that “crap” is part of the experience.

If I was the organisers of the event, I can see no reason why I would want to dilute my market by removing 100+ "serious" gamers, not given the supply and demand of this event. If these 100+ “elite” gamers do not attend the LAN, then they are just PA saying they are "serious gamers". Even if the BF3 community rise together to fight the monstrous DGL, refuse to buy tickets, trying to boycott the greatest LAN party in Sub-Saharan-African, the event will still be a sell out on the first day ticket sales goes online.

Most people that are travelling will be taking a day or two leave, an extra day here or there will not be such a blow. So I agree, in an ideal world, where corporates actually listen to individuals, and they actually give a shit about our feelings, I would say host the BF3 comps the day before or after RAGE that way, you have a win-win situation.

There is a good reason why the last DGL competition was hosted on a separate network, I am sure Lee can fill in the technical blanks. There is also a very good reason why DGL and the organisers of RAGE would NOT want to mix the two events. I know I would not if I was them. If I remember correctly, was there not a serious amount of bitching going on when the event was hosted in the “dungeon”? Why insist on that again?


Going to the LAN is a no-brainer to me whether the BF3 comp is on or not, whether DGL gives us 8 tickets or not. Actually, if DGL does NOT give us tickets, then the clan will all be able to sit together. However, from what I have read on the first page of this trend, there seem to be some of us that is just not interested to actually participate in the biggest LAN event of the year if the latest / greatest game is not there.


Irrespective of whether or not BF3 comps is going on, RAGE will be what you make of it. If we go to the LAN with a negative attitude, the LAN can be nothing but miserable. However, if BF3 is not played for whatever reason, then go and pick one of the 300 other titles you’ve played before BF3 was launched and have some fun.

I will finish with what I’ve started: “I understand the clan's affiliation with BF3, but why MUST we play the latest and greatest game to have a blast of a time with 2000+ other gamers?”

Denis, you raise proper points dude and I guess this is why the discussion needs to take place way in advance.

What we all want is a plan. We planned to play "games" last year (TF2 etc) and look what happened? The weekend was awesome, but the gaming/LAN portion was far from it.

Please note, the below is my personal POV and is not to be taken as the be all end all opinion. My view on the LAN itself:

We stood in a queue for hours. I am not trying to sound like a bitch, but it sucked HARD. It dampened the Friday and completely screwed with the little bit of energy we had left (mental note to selves.. don't get shitfaced on Thursday night...).

The LAN itself was not ready for the gamers. The first few hours inside the dome were spent waiting for networks to come up, steam auth. to be sorted, ip addresses, plug points etc.

The gaming blew. TF2 partially worked, guys weren't that interested (due to above and other reasons), no one wanted to play "the same game" which will always be an issue.. Which brings me to my next point - the rationale around BF3. Its a game EVERYONE has played or plays currently. Its one of the few games the majority of the guys agree on.

There was no real structure. Guys must definitely be able to do what they want, and when they want to, but between half the people being here and there, and the general "vibe" of the weekend, "events" often clashed. EG: "Guys, lets play XYZ NAO!" - "No dude, we need to check the expo, get our stuff, leech some series, take a nap" etc. Nothing wrong with this, but with a competition, everyone runs on the same vibe.

The above all gets resolved with a Battlefield competition. I absolutely LOVED the dungeon. No queue, dedicated lounge area, good competitive feel. HOWEVER, it raises the biggest issue of them all for me.

Who sits in the comp area and who doesn't?

The natural answer is the guys who compete, but the segregation due to team selection is KAK. I didn't like the fact that the guys that weren't competing had to "go back to their seats". Its shit and needs to be avoided.

I guess my TLDR version of my wall of text (WHICH CRITS FOR OVER NINETHOUSAND) is that we need to discuss this at length to reach some kind of consensus. My personal opinion is that I will certainly be around on the weekend, but I don't know about lanning really, unless we have a good plan. Also, some way to reserve seats so that we don't spend 6 hours in a queue.

A lot of valid points have been raised and they need to be discussed. However a lot of the decisions can only be made once we know where/when the BF3 finals will be held and if we may be in it.

So gather all your thoughts, once we have this info we can have the discussion in earnest

Denis, I think the key point in deciding whether or not to attend Rage is when/where the DGL BF3 LAN is going to take place. Not because we HAVE to play the latest game, but because it will most likely be in JHB even if it doesn't happen at Rage. I, for one, will only be able to make one trip up to JHB for gaming this year. I would be disappointed if I made the trip for Rage and they held the DGL finals a month later and [grrr] was in it because I'd have to sit out.

s3xy_j0nny wrote:I, for one, will only be able to make one trip up to JHB for gaming this year.

Jono, I understand some people's constraints, but isn't that what the slush fund is for?

Hey guys,

my 2c

Personally I feel we didnt do much/fun gaming last year due to not everyone being keen on playing anything.... those that wanted to play did stick around a bit more and did try other games.

For me personally, RAGE is a tradition. not just some pc event happening in Jozy

I think we should go on as if the comp will be at rage for the time being. Obviously we need answers from DGL as to what the plans is with BF3. There is also a chance we wont be in the comp even if there is one(no, I am not being negative, just looking at the matter from a "how many eggs is in the basket right now" perspective). So for me personally, planning on anything but going to rage this year is planning on a lot of what-if's and just confuses the subject? putting the proverbial cart before the horse and all that.(pretty much what Paul said)



so in summary from me, lets plan everything as per normal from now until there is a deffo's confirmation about anything else happening

/my 2c

Skouperd wrote:Jono, I understand some people's constraints, but isn't that what the slush fund is for?

How much money do you think that the slush fund has?? We can't be buying flights to JHB for people to make multiple trips to JHB in a year, there's simply not enough money.

The slush fund is there to assist clan members and to provide for clan activities. So, in the past is has been used to assist members in getting PC components when they are in genuine need, or in contributing towards travel and accommodation costs to get members up to rAge/XXXL. But i can't cover all of these costs. Planning a rAge trip when the DGL finals are on a different weekend doesn't make sense if grrr is in the finals. In such a case, we will need to plan our clan get together weekend around the DGL finals.

I know that means that we would miss rAge this year, but the fact is that we are primarily a BF clan, and the BF competition is our primary focus.

I agree with Jarrod.

First prize if rAge and DGL finals are all on the same weekend and grrr plays in the finals and we all have a blast. But this is unknown at the moment and is a big consideration so I hesitate to make plans know without knowing

Dragonne wrote:The slush fund is there to assist clan members and to provide for clan activities.

Tick

So, in the past is has been used to assist members in getting PC components when they are in genuine need, or in contributing towards travel and accommodation costs to get members up to rAge/XXXL.

Genuine need… travel and accommodation costs… get members up to events… Tick

But i can't cover all of these costs.

Genuine need… travel and accommodation costs… Tick