Asus Rampage III Gene, GTX470 with an H50 cooled i7-950 running at 4Ghz

Geth, I think I have a Vantage CD that came with my GFx card. Will look around and see if i still haz it and bring it to rAge.

AWESOME write up Skoups. I am sorry to all other technically gifted GRRRbians, but you seem to have a serious amount of knowledge when it comes to this stuff. Jarrod, you have stiff competition dude. You know also have a hella knack for OC'ing which is a part of PC's I have stayed miles away from.. simply because voltage this voltage that confuzzels the shit out of me.

Regarding the case, I will show you a perfect example of how difficult cable management is. My case is an mess inside, which really annoys me as I look through the window on the side and see it all the time. And I have OCD to a degree. An extreme perfectionist etc etc). It just seems so difficult to get everything tidy without pushing the electronics beyond their physical threshhold (that is until the thing snaps or something).

This all being said, I would love to have the master(s) do a bit of damage control on my machine come rAge if we have a chance. I am sure I can get more out of it, and with the right knowledge, my baby can look as gorgeous as this one does. Possibly even squeeze a chunk of performance with a bit of a clock...

(i am not hijacking this thread, just saying that I would love to have you take a looksie at my rig ITO cable-management and OClocking. Would really appreciate it).

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Originally Posted by Prodigal1

The H50 is an interesting piece of hardware. Any idea on how many degrees it reduced temps from the stock cooler?

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Good air will beat bad water. Many of the "full h2o kit" solutions are not as good as the top air coolers. Most serious h2o users buy all the different parts for their kit seperately. So either get a good h2o kit, otherwise just get a serious aftermarket heatsink with 120mm fans.

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Originally Posted by Paul

I also have the hardcore ASUS mobo

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Hardcore for overclocking is Gigabyte UDP3 for 775's or UD5/7/9 for i7's. Asus cannot claim that crown. Gigabyte hold all the significant 775 and i7 overclocking records. Asus make really good motherboards... but the Gigabyte ones are better for overclocking.

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(i am not hijacking this thread, just saying that I would love to have you take a looksie at my rig ITO cable-management and OClocking. Would really appreciate it).

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Phatso, a couple of questions.
1. I have your hard drive here with me, do you want me to fill it up for you? Since I will most likely NOT be taking massive amount of hard drives with me to Rage.
2. Please take a picture of your current case's insides, I would like to know what is needed from my side.
3. I will in anyevent bring through my normal "lan" toolkit, which can do repairs on most systems, but just want to make sure I've got it all.

The best timing from my perspective will be if we can do it the Thursday evening before Rage since we will in anyevent all be together and the PC's unpluged and what not. Now I've never been to the place where we are staying so if anybody could just confirm the lighting conditions there please? I need a lot of light and even light at that. If the lighting is bad, I can arange that we can use my aunts garage which have the correct lighting in.

Thanks for the reply Skoups. Its not that urgent a deal that we need to go to a separate locasie to do some fixing ;) , but I will be @ Fern Glen in the evening, hopefully around 15:00-16:00...

But to answer your questions :
1. Massive thank you for this. Please PM your banking details so that I can EFT the funds to you (total amount too please, in case the price changed).
2. Will take a photo later today and post it here or PM it to you.
3. I don't think it needs repairs as such, but I am sure it would love some little bit of tidying up.

I don't think the lighting is too big a deal though, if we can sort it out Thurs evening, thats cool. If there is not enough light, we don't need to fix it that day, maybe @ a later stage.

(sho we hijacked this thread gooood)

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Good air will beat bad water. Many of the "full h2o kit" solutions are not as good as the top air coolers. Most serious h2o users buy all the different parts for their kit seperately. So either get a good h2o kit, otherwise just get a serious aftermarket heatsink with 120mm fans.

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Murgs, in your view, what is the best watercooler on the market right now?

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Murgs, in your view, what is the best watercooler on the market right now?

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I actually can't answer that since I've never owned a H2O kit but always dreamed of having one. The cost and lack of local availability of most of the best blocks and radiators has always turned me away in the end so I've gone with air. It's been at least a couple years since I last spent time investigating what was currently considered the best products on the market. For H2O your kit can last you a long time, with perhaps just having to change the block each time you get a new cpu socket type, so it seems to me, you might as well buy a very good kit since it should be able to last you for a long time.

I wouldn't want to buy a single H2O "kit", but rather would spend time on the watercooling forums, reading up about all the different blocks, radiators, pumps and size tubing that are the best to work together, that I would be able to find international suppliers who will ship to South Africa. I think it's not to hard if you just want a simple cpu H2O solution, but if you want to add your gfx card(s) to the package, then it gets quite a bit more complicated. Having the right case to fit all the parts in also used to be a problem (shipping a case to SA will cost a lot), although it seems now there are good cases available locally that are designed to support H2O setups.

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The H50 is an interesting piece of hardware. Any idea on how many degrees it reduced temps from the stock cooler?

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Here's a review from 3D Guru for the H70. As you can see in that review, it's up there with the very best of air coolers (most of which you'd struggle to get in this country), at a not unreasonable price considering it's performance. The H70 unit costs about R1000. I reckon it would do as good a job as my Aquagate MAX, if not better, and costs half the price. It also takes up a lot less space, and probably weighs a lot less too.

Sure, a purpose built enthusiast wc setup will beat this, and by quite some margin (as well as catering for loops to cool your GPU's too). But for a unit that can easily be installed on the CPU that doesn't cost the earth, I reckon it's pretty decent.

I'd be interested to swap my uint out for this.

That doesn't seem to be a bad kit for the price, but its still a bit more expensive than air and only performs a tiny bit better.

Near the bottom of this page in the review http://www.guru3d.com/article/corsair-h70-review/11 they compare it to a proper custom watercooling kit. Huge difference in temps. Thats why I'd like a custom kit.

Ok, I can confirm that I've got the H70 water cooler as the first prize for the Supreme Commander comp.

But I am thinking, after reading that review Jarrod linked to, that one should just take some fine grain sanding paper, some rubbing compound and just polishing that base till it is perfectly flat and shiney. It is actually quite easy to achieve a mirror finish that is perfectly flat, so wonder why 3d Guru did not do that and compare a before-and-after benchmark as well.

If I win the prize, I'll do that for us and see how big an improvement it actually resulted in.

I've recently read a couple more reviews on the H70... and after seeing it for sale at less than R1100 on local websites... I'm actually quite impressed at the performance for the price.

Is the supreme commander comp limited to Rage attendants only? heh heh