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by TygerBS » Fri Feb 14, 2014 10:07 am

Jono you lack of commitment to the cause is disturbing...

by RussianElite. » Fri Feb 14, 2014 8:51 am

Fuck you Jono!

by s3xy_j0nny » Fri Feb 14, 2014 8:47 am

Wow. Only seeing this now. I haven't been on these forums for ages, my apologies. I won't necro the thread with any thoughts, but I intend to bel Stef and see what's what.

xoxoxo

by Phatso » Fri Jan 17, 2014 3:40 pm

Before I get into my thoughts on this, I want to thank everyone who took the time to reply to this thread. Its always interesting seeing how people really feel and I am happy that guys stepped up and actually put their thoughts down.
To add to that, the last time I saw a constructive thread on any forums online has been too long. GG lads.

I just want to reiterate what my original intentions were for this thread. Needless to say, I am glad so many different thoughts have been captured here on a variety of topics.
· To clear the air about what happened in the argument between Mark and Stef.
· To let everyone know that it is still my objective for us to be like a family.
· For the ugly chirping to be toned down just a bit.

The altercation I believe is closer to being solved. I hope that Hubris does convey further thoughts, but at least we have a part of the story. I don’t want to get too involved in the disagreement because we know that these things happen and will continue to happen. It’s how you deal with the disagreement that defines whether it was solved or not, irrespective of the end solution.

I must make a few things clear guys. I do not want the banter and chirping to stop. As has been mentioned a few times, its part of what makes [grrr] [grrr]. I agree with that. What I do want is for people to understand that there is taking the piss and going full retard. Creating an environment that is hostile is never anyone’s intention, however the interpretation always differs between people.

Like mentioned, the occasional chirp is a part of online and this clan, and is often a term of endearment. Its when little to no value is derived that it needs attention. Please don’t change who you are if consistent dissing is who you are (which no one in this clan is), but understand that you are sharing an environment, an escape, a hobby, an alternate universe and an online family with other people. The flip side of the coin is for people to speak up if offended. This is not always the easiest thing to do especially when there are 15 people on a TS channel and all you want is 3 seconds to say something. But don’t let it manifest inside of you. This happens far too often where a small issue that can be resolved gets bottled up.. that bottle keeps getting filled up with horrible thoughts and when its pops up, its not nice at all.

I agree 100% that it takes different levels to get to different people. What you find offensive, I may not and so on. We do have an extremely resilient batch of people here. This clan isn’t for the light-hearted and each of its members are strong minded, talented individuals. But we are all different. Everyone’s threshold is different. And thresholds aren’t an exact science. Please bare that in mind everyone.

Keep on rocking guys, remember that when your backs are against the wall in the online world, the people that share this clan with you are the same people that will be standing by your side, ready to face anything that is thrown at you, with you.

by Salty Ferret » Fri Jan 17, 2014 2:07 pm

well, we can all play WildStar! and own the world!...Dota 2 is making Sou and Phatso to aggressive...soon we will have a thread raising money to pull them out of jail.

by TygerBS » Fri Jan 17, 2014 1:46 pm

Well thanks for explaining your side U2.

I don't really think this is about a he said she said thing. In the end as you said this was between you and hubris and if it needs further sorting out then its between you two.

I think also Phatso has a set idea how he would like things to be, and I think he also like a less lets say "hostile environment" than most.
The boisterous tuning in grrr can be intimidating.
I am interested to hear his feed back, and to hear from a Jono.

by Megageth » Fri Jan 17, 2014 1:44 pm

Nice post Skoups, you should give BF4 another go though.

by TygerBS » Fri Jan 17, 2014 1:36 pm

Aahahah ya but my fake wall of text was way better perd!

by xU2Mx » Fri Jan 17, 2014 1:33 pm

Hi Guys
The point has been missed completely and hopefully my non-member break in silence will rectify the matter. I do this only as my name has been mentioned and not for any other reason as I actually think the problem is elsewhere.
Grrr is about banter or I would not love you guys as much as I do and fuck ye, I call Russ a "laaitjie" and he knows I love him and so do all the others I give shit including Hubris and Droog, yes Dry, leave those fucking buttons alone :p
Here are the facts from the horse’s mouth. Whoever else had anything to say that night would be irrelevant (you know what I mean, for Jonny J)and it actually did not bother me at all. Also, not for me to bring their names into this even though it will be difficult to try explain without a name or two but here goes. This is to my best recollection of something of actual no issue or consequence but I will try to put this matter to rest:
The previous night Hubris said that he wished people, obviously referring to grrr members, would not use ‘the join on friend’ function as it fucked the server up. (I would like to add that it does not on any other server when I join on my grrr friends.) Anyways on this specific night I thought I would support his request, even though others were not, as I wanted to be supportive of his quest to do whatever he was trying to achieve. This even though the only reason I play is because I want to squad up with my buddies made over the last 8+ years. It is especially cool when you can chat to them too - even hear voices from the past with new nicks.
So I found the guys all on the grrr server and instead of clicking on the first member of grrr top of my list in Battle Log as I always do, I choose the server and joined it from there.
I get put in a squad with some grrr players and just as I settle in to some awesome fun after a shit day at the office I get moved to another squad of dudes (probably some young cod players I have no time for :p .)
I complained in TS (to no-one in particular as I was not aware that anyone had been working on the server or was actively doing any admin duties - my fault perhaps for not keeping abreast of all the forum news as I am just not that way inclined. I am not built for so much info and would rather just play). I said; "I have just joined the server and already I get swopped when all I want to do is play alongside some friends". Hubris then says to me in TS that I should stop being childish.
I said nothing and carried on playing in this squad of people I do not know. For some reason the server felt out of kilter as my squad of strangers and I together where getting ripped a new one and eventually these guys left. I said nothing. Eventually a (fresh cannon fodder) grrr member joined and ended up in my squad at which time I started checking the squads.
What was happening was everyone joining on friends where ending up in the same squad and at one stage it was me and one other grrr member in our squad and the other squads with between 5 and 8 people in each. The effect of that quite obvious as our squad was being ripped a new one.
Well of course I had to say something as whenever a non-understanding person from outside would join our server he would end up in this lame two man squad and not last long and leave again because the stack and abuse was just too much. Not a very good advert for us. Any ways, discussions had been taking place during game play about settings and so on for the server which I did not care much for and was not really listening to anyways, but Hubris then said to me again in the same tone as the childish comment of earlier when I said something was not right to then do the settings of the server myself : o
Well I am sorry but I lost it and climbed into Hubris and told him to just fucking use the same settings as all the other servers instead of pissing everyone off with stupid settings that where clearly not working and yes I used the word "fuck" multiple times as I lost my cool after having to take in-game abuse and being called names for no reason. Hubris rage quit and the guys kept on playing, everyone joking and even giving me shit for losing it, which I took in the same light, all fun and jokes. Eventually Hubris came back but at this point it was so bad in the squad I was in that, myself and the other grrr member who can identify himself too corroborate if he feels the need, where stuck. We could because of balancing not go anywhere and nobody could join us. Another grrr player eventually tried, but even though it showed him in our squad, to him too I might add, it did not to either of us 2, and he could not spawn on us or vice versa.
I said there was something wrong and did not expect to be told off a second time by someone who I thought better of and had intelligent discussions with prior and yes, this probably has no bearing on the matter as I see guys much younger than me as buds but for some “dude”, yes that’s what I call Hubris now in this discussion, as that is how I felt at the time, younger than my son calling me childish and then talking to me about doing stuff myself that I was at no stage even involved in, in that tone of voice in front of others was to me not acceptable . Perhaps I am not of Hubris’ intellect or not of his stature but that does not give him the right to treat me like shit. In private yes, by all means tell me I am a “doos” but if you treat me with disdain in public expect a public tong lashing and that is exactly what he got.
If Hubris has taken it personally or tried to use the incident for some reason or just over sensitive to a barking dog (me) when he was trying to tickle that sleeping dog’s balls then so be it but I am afraid I cannot at this stage see why I should apologise for eventually hitting back at someone who clearly had no respect for me.
I trust above serves to rectify the matter. Now can we please go back to the way I know grrr: friendly banter of sometimes unashamed crude levels online, but when we get together for a meet great fun and most of all serious caring for each other as that’s how I know you grrr.
To Hubris:
I love you, Buddy and I know you said you wanted to concentrate on real life more (which I agree with 100%). We miss you! Please come back. I promise that I will let you set the server in any which way that you want to :p

by BadA$$jack » Fri Jan 17, 2014 1:26 pm

Double post loser !!!Calling yourself "n perd" showhorse my ass

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