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Re: Win7

by AuRoRa » Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:52 am

Im reeeeaaaallyyy worried then , cause i understood that......clearly im a nerd then.. fukt , i even understood his last post ^^ so that means im fluent in Bi-Lee-Ngwal and Nerd-I-Are...

:p lease: HELP!!

Re: Win7

by SlipperyDuck » Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:58 pm

No, no, you were close tho.

Translation: Fk you o'z are doff, like WTF I'm l33t, I be in yer base steeling all yer Armourz....roflcopter...lolz...Zomg

Re: Win7

by Megageth » Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:21 pm

Allow me to translate:

"I had a problem with my pc so complex that none of you are nerdy enough to understand it. I then found a solution so complex that none of you are nerdy enough to have thought of it. I am sharing the solution here, not because any of you are likely to need it, but because I am staking a claim for clan uber nerd."

... something like that anyways, my nerdspeak is rusty.

Re: Win7

by J_Th4ng » Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:04 pm

:eek: ^^^ Does anyone understand what he's saying? :hmmm:

Re: Win7

by SlipperyDuck » Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:31 pm

Right Here's something i posted on MyBroadband about the windows update failure:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

AHA! Since I installed Win7 (inplace upgrade), I was unable to avtivate via the internet or do windows updates.

I tried all manner of things to get it going, including logging a ticket with microsoft all leading me down a garden path of disappointment.

Then it dawned on me (Now a week or two later) to run the update and from the command prompt see where my machine was connecting to.

TADA! I found that a previous Proxy setting I installed from proxycfg was still there and even though IE didnt have the proxy settings, the netsh(Windows secure network thingy) did. It was this hidden proxy config that was causing my issues.

to see if you have something similar go the command prompt as Administrator:
Click - Start [in the search for programs] - type cmd, then right-click CMD.exe that shows up as a result above, Choose run as Administrator and say YES.

now at the command prompt see if you have a proxy config:
netsh winhttp dump

I did, so I changed it like so:
netsh winhttp reset proxy

Problem solved.

Re: Win7

by AuRoRa » Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:23 am

ah-ha... ok , nice point there Drags..

:D it does refer to a better version , so thats kinda a plus point... So let me re-state my opinion then -

I DONT FEEL that its neccesary at home , due to the fact that its a more secure enviroment..


:D

Re: Win7

by J_Th4ng » Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:41 am

Nice link there Jean, certainly does explain what UAC is, and why it was so reviled in Vista.

However, it doesn't say anything about multi-level security or not being needed for home use.

In fact, it would seem to be saying that it's a lot better than Vista's UAC:

Since many software programs did not support UAC when it was first introduced in Windows Vista, the applications failed and created lots of issues, which reflected in a bad user experience. As many applications are built with the support of UAC now, it is a seamless experience in Windows 7.

You can see that the user can go directly to the UAC settings from the prompt to change how these notifications appear if the user is not happy about these notifications.

Overall, the UAC experience is much improved in Windows 7 than in Windows Vista. The number of clicks (by default) is drastically reduced in Windows 7 when compared to Windows Vista. The ultimate goal of the UAC is to provide user the control over what changes can happen to the system and not to annoy users with more number of prompts.


I'm not saying that it's a vital service, or that it should never be turned off. All I say is that one should be cautious about turning it off. it improves Windows security, and anything that does that is a good thing. On top of that, it's a helluva lot less intrusive than it was under Vista.

My experience with it so far is that it only pops up for three programs that I'm using: CPUZ, Realtemp, and Prime95. I'm only using these programs in order to stabilise my overclock settings, so they really don't bother me as I'll stop using them soon.

However, if you are constantly using programs that infringe the UAC, then by all means turn UAC off if you want to. Just be sure to have good security running.

One thing that I do think could be improved in UAC would be to allow specific programs the right to change settings. Although that in itself would open up security holes, I suppose.

Re: Win7

by SlipperyDuck » Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:34 am

I've got a strange issue where Windows update REFUSES to connect (after 10 minutes of trying) to the windows update server.
Logged a ticket with Microsoft and everything (You can do this if you're legit :readthis: ), will see how that turns out and let you know.

Re: Win7

by AuRoRa » Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:48 am

Just so that u know why im saying turn it off - http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/01/07/windows-7-whats-up-with-the-uac

These guys state that the UAC now has different levels , wich does make it more user friendly.. point is , if u are in a single user enviroment , u do not need UAC , it is designed for multi level security , for eg: a corporate network were users need differnt control levels for security reasons.
So UAC is a ver nice little feature when u need custom security levels , but for home , u dont need it.

http://netsecurity.about.com/od/quicktips/qt/UAC.htm

Re: Win7

by AuRoRa » Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:38 am

MagicalMrMegaPlease wrote:Ok. So its good, but here are some issues I need help with...

Admin Privileges.
Example. CPUZ. Downloaded from the internet, needs access to the computer to read CPU, RAM information etc. So every time I start it up I get an irritating warning. So to save myself right-clicking on the application and selecting "Run as administrator" every time, I go into the properties of the exe (and shortcuts, just in case) and check the little tick box that says "Run this program as an administrator", for ALL fucking users, in particular, me.
Sounding good? I thought so. Still asks me if I want to allow access to my computer when I click on it, and it even has the cheek to put a little admin shield on the icon as if to say "Fuck you Mega, you stupid prick, did you really think it would be that straight forward? HA HA HA!" I also found another "helpful" little check box that says "This program came from the internet: Unblock?" Which seemed to be another red herring.


RouteSentry.

Got it working but have to manually dial the International connection before starting it up. Anyone found a workaround?


1 - Admin...

Go into the control panel , look for user accounts and the turn off the little ticked box called User account control... PROBLEM solved..

2 - RouteSentry

U should give Iggy a call , he has it working like a dream on his Win 7

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