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Skouperd
10-10-2011, 10:32 PM
Introduction

Despite recommending and reviewing several high-end cases for clients and friends, I have never really invested a lot of money in my own personal case. It has been several years since I even had something resembling a case. Keeping up to date with case developments, the one case that I really liked was a Lian-Li full tower cases, but at R6000 it was a tad bit heavy for the wallet. My argument was that a second graphics card (for similar cost) would do a lot more for my gaming than a new case. That was when I decided screw this, why not design and build something myself.

Not restricted by anything, I reviewed various case designs, everything from wall-mounted desks, monitors with built in computers. Some designers even built their computers into their desks. However, none of the above appealed to my practical side since I like to upgrade my components from time to time. Effectively, I wanted a non-obtrusive piece of furniture that is very practical, yet, does not become the focal point within the room. Perspex, steel cages, bright LED’s and fancy side panel cut outs will thus not accomplish my objective.

Four years ago, during my first event at RAGE I chatted with somebody from BoC sitting next to me and we discussed some cases found at RAGE. I think we looked at Jono’s case, whom had a wooden box of some sort, and both agreed that the concept had potential. I especially liked it since it would have been cheap and easy to build. Oh, how wrong was I not! I explained to the guy’ my idea about having a high quality case when he suggested that if I am serious about building some high quality case that looks like furniture, that I first look at some woodworking videos he had. After watching the first video, I realised I am way out of my depth to even consider building my own case the way I envisaged it. So, for the last 4 years I have been honing my skills, building all kind of furniture using various materials such as solid wood, plywood, granite, ceaser-stone, metal and Perspex in order to one day get to a stage where I can build my own. I think I am finally ready to consider building my own PC case.

This post here describes the final design before I will commence with the actual built next week. I figured, let me just get some opinions from the experts (you guys!) before I embark before actually building it. This will be the last opportunity I have to make any adjustments or incorporate other people’s ideas before I begin. Just for the record, I already purchased the wood, and my idea is to start building next week as I need to finish one other project first.

May I ask that you please be very critical in your responses, as I would rather want to resolve any issues now than half way through the build?


I looked at various cases, and I liked the PC-X2000 from Lian-Li, it is the stylish, simplistic, yet highly efficient design. My aim is to achieve something similar. I therefor used the PX-X2000 dimensions to get the creative juices flowing. As soon as the juices started to flow, I ran into obstacles with regard to the material that I needed. Each material that I was considering had different properties; and each one will require its own unique design. Figured, before I proceed any further, why not look at the materials so that I do not need to end up with multiple designs. The end dimensions is as such larger than the PC-X2000 case.

I considered several materials, Perspex, Aluminium, Steel, Wood and even Granite at some stage. Perspex just does not give me that classy feel. Aluminium cases is found everywhere on the net so that will be a boring built. A steel case will end up being too heavy a design for anything practical. Granite was my second choice especially since I have worked with granite before. I like the fact that granite does not retain heat and with the proper airflow can get rid of hot air quickly. The added benefit of being able to put a cup of coffee on the top of the case and not worry about stains was an added benefit. However, the thought of carrying a full size granite case to RAGE resulted in a mind melt.

Doing a search on the net, several people have attempted wooden mods before, so unlike my granite idea, (which would have been the first, the last, and the only) I have some other suckers to learn from. I recently done some carpentry with Khaya Nyassica, a tree stemming from the family Meliaceae, and was quite pleased with the way in which it worked. Since the wood above, better known as African mahogany, is generally use for high-class furniture I figured that it should retain that classy look years from now.

The minimum thickness solid mahogany is sold at is 28mm, after planing and smoothing it, the end depth is between 26mm and 20mm. Knowing that I will be working with at least 20mm thick boards of Mahogany I am finally able to start focusing on the design.

I do not want any fans or metal protruding from the front, sides or top. The design should be suitable to host any future upgrade I may consider. It need to fit underneath my desk, but should not look out of place if I decide to put it next to my monitor. The design should be capable to mount dual socket server boards such as the EVGA-SR2 board. The space should be sufficient if I ever decide to mount two CPU’s, then I would also like to be able to mount two water coolers such as the H100. A slight positive air pressure is required.

The minimum hardware
It is very hard to gage what the dimensions will be for hardware in 3 years’ time, let along 6 or 7 years. I do know what the minimum hardware is that I need for the machine today, and if I can allow for a bit of extra space in there, we should be fine in a couple of years.

The case will play host to my main gaming rig. The popular ATX and E-ATX standard exist for gaming boards. Despite the norm being ATX, several companies have released a form factor named Ultra-ATX allowing for up to nine PCI slots. EVGA however released a monster in 2008 named the HTPX standard. If I want to future proof my design, I need to ensure sufficient space for an HTPX board.

The case should be capable to handle dual or even triple graphics cards. If I design the case to accommodate an HTPX board, any graphics card or expansion card of any nature should not be a problem either.

Power supply, my current power supply is a Corsair HX1000 with these dimensions, 150mm (w) x 86mm (h) x 200mm (d). It is considerably bigger than standard power supplies. The trend however is more power efficient computers so I can see that my power supply should last me another couple of years. However, allowing for a little bit more depth in the PSU will not hurt. Another option is to allow for dual power supply mountings.

The drive bays should cater for a minimum of six 3.5” drives, an optical drive, and some 2.5” bays. It should perhaps also allow for breakout boxes as found on certain fan controllers, sound cards, or temperature measurements.

Motherboard tray
An ATX motherboard measure 305mm by 244mm compared to the HTPX standard of the SR2 measuring 345.44mm x 381mm. The only board that is bigger than that is the Workstation ATX (or WTX) board measuring 355.6mm x 425.4mm. Intel developed the WTX standard 1998 and it did not really take to the market. The HTPX, developed in 2008 by EVGA seems to be the more realistic choice for big boards but also unlikely format for the mainstream market. To play it safe, I could allow a little bit of extra space around the edges to ensure that the case can accommodate anything else in future. My final dimensions for my motherboard tray is thus 400mm (top to bottom) and 468mm (back to front). This is 55mm higher and 87mm deeper than a SR2 require.

Airflow
The beauty of working with wood that is so much thicker than metal is that one can make the fans flush with the inside of the case without them even protruding from the inside. The airflow that I am thinking off is to have air sucked in from the bottom, and propelled at the back. Dust filters on all intake fans, together with a positive air pressure inside the case should take care of the dust.

The intake of air is by way of three 120mm fans bottom mounted, and a H70 CPU water cooler mounted on the back. Outlet fans on the graphics card, a dedicated 120mm fan at the back, and the power supply should provide a positive air pressure. The hard drives will receive 120mm cool airflow from the bottom, while three 80mm fans will provide airflow from behind the hidden chamber over the drives. The power supply will absorb the hot air from the H70 the power supply and immediately remove it from the case. If this becomes a problem, then the H70 and the 120mm outlet fan can be swapped around.

I may build a custom fan speed controller (after all it is just a couple of pots one need) which will also allow me the opportunity to turn my own mahogany dials. I have not decided where this will be mounted, either in one of the 5.25” bays, or perhaps next to the USB ports on the bottom.

Drive bays
How many optical and hard drive bays is always a tricky problem. The three main standards we need to know about are the 5.25” bay, the 3.5” drive, and the 2.5” drive. The dimension of a 5.25” bay is 82.55mm x 146.1mm. It is interesting to note that the bay is actually not 5.25” in width (it is actually 5.75”) but the name 5.25” stuck due to that being the size of the original floppy disks used in those bays. Also the 5.25” bays that we are used to today for our DVD writers is in fact only occupying half the height of an original 5.25 bay. Half height bays (the ones in use today) measure 41.3mm x 146mm. A 3.5” hard drive (bay) in turns measures 101.6mm wide, by 25.4mm high, by 146mm deep. The 2.5” bays measure 69.85mm in width, but could be anything between 7-15mm in height, and measure 100mm deep. The beauty of 2.5” drives however, is that you can install four of them into a single 5.25” bay, so just include an extra 5.25” bay.

The 3.5” format seems to remain the de facto standard for larger data storage devices while the 2.5” drives are favoured more for SSD drives. One still need a 5.25” optical drive so we need to have a combination of all three possibilities. I do not plan to store any real data on this computer so I do not need tons of hard drive space, the main objective here will be speed. Various ways exist to generate more speed from a hard drive, one is SSD drives while the other is RAID. The cost of a full out SSD system is still too much. My plan is to install six 3.5” Velociraptors in RAID 0 to be used for data storage space, while two SSD’s should do the trick on the OS drive. Therefore, we need six 3.5” bays and a minimum of two 5.25” bays (one for the 2.5” and one for the 5.25” drive). To future proof the case a bit, I will go with three 5.25” bays if we ever need to install additional break out boxes.

Another requirement that I want to have is that my optical drive bay opens to the side of the case and not as is the norm to the front. I had seen too many times that people bump into optical drives that is open if they protrude from the front. Also, given my hearing, my case will always be sitting on my right hand side.

Cable Management
The idea is that the cable management be designed in such a way that the inside of the case remain as clean as possible. To that end, a second chamber is incorporated in the build. The motherboard tray will be a full panel of solid mahogany. The motherboard tray will cover a secret chamber that is large enough to accommodate all the cables. However, to improve cable management at the back, 10mm deep channels will be routed into the motherboard tray.

The power supply is always a difficult component to have neat wiring for. What I am doing in that regard is to turn the PSU 90 degrees so that the side normally pointing down, is now pointing towards the side panel. This allow a false panel to be installed that is flush with the PSU hiding the cables protruding from the PSU itself. The false panel will guide the cables to the hidden chamber behind thereby hiding all cables from the PSU.

Summary
The above is more or less, what I have in mind for my new case. However, before commencing with the actual built please let me know if you can foresee any problem areas, or if there is anything that I might have missed. I already procured the Mahogany, and have another week or so before I can commence with this built. Unfortunately, once the build commence, there will be little opportunity to make adjustments. The below are various views as drawn in Google Sketchup. The dimensions are as close as possible to the actual dimensions. Note that each dado and each hole serves a specific purpose, if the purpose is unclear, please let me know and I can explain.

The comments that I will appreciate is the following:
* Is the case big enough, what future upgrades will I have difficulty to accommodate inside the case? (I can remove the 3.5” drive bays if I need even more space for the motherboard.
* What is the optimal way to position the fans behind the hard drives? One idea I toyed with is that the bottom fan suck cool air from the main chamber and then the other two fans blow it back over the drivers. The way that I have them now is that all three will blow air over the drives from the hidden chamber. I am however concerned that the hidden chamber will generate a negative air pressure thereby sucking in dust. Any suggestions on how to resolve that potential problem will be appreciated?
* Is the airflow from three 120mm fans at the bottom sufficient?
* Would you put the H70 on the top or the bottom?
* Would the heat from the H70 not cause problems for the PSU, in that it is sucking in hot air from the CPU?
* The hard drive cages, will that allow sufficient air?
* I will route 10mm channels in the back of the motherboard tray (remember the beauty of dealing with 26mm pieces of wood). The idea is that I will tie the cables down (either by way of Velcro or cable ties) in these channels thereby keeping the back side very clean as well. Other suggestions on cable management?

Trust me if I say, I have been thinking a long time on this case design and that in less than 8 days’ time I can finally commence with its build, needless to say, I am excited about it! So, if there is anything that I have not considered, or something you do not agree with, or something you think I could improve on, please let me know now while I can still make modifications to the final design please.

Thanks for reading, and please be critical. I will much rather fix it now than hacking a solution midway through the built.

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flycatchr
10-10-2011, 11:06 PM
skoups- sounds solid

have you thought of a veneer? IE - supawood is easy to work with and can be veneered in pretty much all sorts of wood. (I am not talking about the plastic veneer) - you can even get formica which looks like granite. not as heavy as granite but i think available in 16mm and 32mm - I will have to check with the suppliers - you could look at your nearest kitchen DIY place for ideas if you think it is a viable alternative. problem with most off the shelf veneers is that they are chipboard - which i dont really like.
Another alternative is to find out where Daz got his flooring from because those floorboards looked mighty comfortable (and they might be thinner/lighter)

If you do go for the thicker wood, there is a trick the deck chaps use to help prevent warping (not that i am too worried in your case) (pun intended). they basically have grooves along the length of the grain.

ITO the cable management - I am sure you could find some of those covers that are used by the electricians, and make the cable grooves so that the cover fits in. - just a thought :)

I would put the PSU at the bottom - If only to keep weight at the bottom of the case (balance and CoG) and not have the weight of the PSU hanging on wood (vibrations can loosen screws)
That could then make space for a DUAL H70 setup, and I would have them at the top because of airflow and heat rising.

Skouperd
10-10-2011, 11:19 PM
Thanks Fly, I actually have a contact here that can do veneer ply wood, or even veneer supa wood, minimum thickness is 6mm or something very thin. They actually do veneer mahogany, but I found that it is pretty expensive for what you get. Granted, those veneer woods do look good and tend to work a lot easier than real wood.

flycatchr
10-10-2011, 11:45 PM
edited above - you got skype?

Skouperd
11-10-2011, 07:40 AM
Fly, let me just ensure I understand you correctly. You want to move the PSU to the bottom and then move the h70 up all the way to the top? I've tried to pull that off, but the only way to get that to work is if you then put the second H70 next to the current one, unfortunately the width of the case is just not big enough to put two 120mm radiators next to each other. I am also restricted in terms of the height of the case, as right now I have little bit less than 10mm room between the bottom of my desk and the case. I could obviously make the case a little bit wider and see what it will look like if I do have the two next to each other.

I am not sure how good one can see on the pictures, but the PSU will actually be resting on the motherboard tray as well thereby spreading the weight.

I'll play around, see if I can incorporate the said changes.

Yes, I do have skype, it was just not switched on yesterday. Nickname is Skouperd.

pmurgs
11-10-2011, 08:16 AM
Since I'm going to install my XSPC Rasa RS360 water cooling kit this week... my thoughts on your build are that you can install Corsair H70's and so on... but case lacks space to install a custom water kit with large and possibly multiple rads, along with a res and pump.

Skouperd
11-10-2011, 09:13 AM
Good point Murgs, just tell me if I am wrong since it's been a while since I looked at h20 kits. I was thinking about watercoolers and the way that I've argued is as follows.

Resoviour, most kits will be either fitting inside a 5.25" bay or be mounted on the outside of the case. The odd ones not complying with the above (such as the Galaxy 1 cooler) mean that I may need to remove one or two of the 3.5" drive bays. For those mounting outside the case, there is sufficient space on the flat part next to the PCI brackets to drill through two holes for the external pipes.

With regard to the radiators, now they do in fact come in various shapes and sizes. Most rads that I've seen however has a mounting for a 120mm fan, which mean I could potentially mount it in the same place that my current h70 is sitting. Alternatively, the others that I've seen are massive ones housing a couple of 120mm fans which is generally mounted on the top of the case. In that case, I should have enough space on the bottom below the fans to mount it there. (I've allowed 70mm from the top of the bottom to the ground).

Saying all that, point taken, thanks for raising it. Any suggestions on how / where I can enhance the current design to incorporate other coolers perhaps?

SlipperyDuck
11-10-2011, 09:16 AM
Wow - nice Skoups.
I love doing fit-for-purpose DIY Jobs - as seen with my HAF932 custom LAN Carry Rig.
I'd suggest, like what I do with these sort of things, is start with el-cheapo materials 1st before committing to something that will be the final product. Much like what I've done with my 1st build of my LAN rigging.

I know it sound really trailer-trash, but build it with masonite 1st, see if it does what you want, if the placements will work or if there are major design flaws that you discover only once you fully mounted all the kit you want to put in there.

At least thats the way I'd do it, use it / don't use it.

Nice solid design though, really impressed with the thought thats gone into it.

Megageth
11-10-2011, 09:24 AM
Although I've never built into one, I've heard good things from Fractal cases and the layout is similar to yours. Check them out for ideas.

http://www.fractal-design.com/img_prod/FD-CA-DEF-R3-BL-5.jpg

I agree with Murgs wrt your H70 radiator. Whilst you will want to make that flush, consider that you may want to expand that to 240mm radiator in the future. The H100 dimensions are : 122mm x 275mm x 27mm.

Aside from that it looks good, just not sure you should refer to the peeps on this as 'experts'.

flycatchr
11-10-2011, 10:05 AM
Fly, let me just ensure I understand you correctly. You want to move the PSU to the bottom and then move the h70 up all the way to the top?
I did think that there would be space for side by side, but looking at it now i am wondering if the fan below could in the future be used for the 2nd H70 (if that is the way you want to go ITO how far into the future you want to plan).

Another thought - have you given any thought to using the insides of another case for holding your HDDs/SDDs? or do you want the inside to match the outside as well?

J_Th4ng
11-10-2011, 10:10 AM
Hey Denis, looking good mate.

I see that you've gone with a standard full tower shape for your design. Have you considered building a desktop shaped box? Building a desktop case (one that the Monitor rests on top of) has a number of advantages, not least of which being the fact that orienting your hardware that way will put far less stress on the motherboard (GPUs and CPU fans hanging of it etc).

Also, you could design something longer and flatter, that allows for more space between your components, as well as greater airflow. Just a thought...

I assume that the PC will never really leave the house? I can't imagine how heavy a solid mahogany case will be, but I'm sure that you wouldn't want to risk damage to the case by lugging it around.

pmurgs
11-10-2011, 10:27 AM
Saying all that, point taken, thanks for raising it. Any suggestions on how / where I can enhance the current design to incorporate other coolers perhaps?


The smaller custom kits come with 240 rads (two 120mm fans). The 360's are preferable though for most people (due to marginal increase in cost over a 240). Most people prefer to mount their h2o kit inside their case nowadays since many cases come designed with space to do so. So if you tried to fit a 360 at the top of your case, it would extend into the top two 5.25 drive bays, just for the rad and fans. You would need another two 5.25 bays for a res and pump combination unit.

And if you plan to water cool your gfx card(s)... you will want a second rad somewhere, even if its only a 120 to add to the 240 or 360 already in the loop.

Suggestions... extend the case upwards some more. So you have another two 5.25 bays and space above the motherboard for mounting a long rad.

Skouperd
11-10-2011, 10:51 AM
good points all of you.

1. Desktop versus tower. I did consider a desktop, the problem I have with a desktop is two things. The first is that it will be very difficult to design it without having some fans being visible from either the side or from the front of the case. The second problem I had was if you build a desktop design, then one's monitor effectively need to stand on top of it, meaning, the monitor is another 15cm higher.

2. Using the outlet fan as the second H70 cooler. You are absolutely correct Fly, that has been my original idea yes. Which is why I've went with the standard dimension sizes for my fans.

3. El cheapo materials... Lee, you are talking to the converted yes. I will be testing out pretty much everything on a mock supa-wood case (supawood is very quick to work with) to ensure everything is working as it should. The wood that I've got still need a lot of prep, sanding, planing etc and since I can only work till 20:00 (noise) on those things, the rest of the time will be use on the el-cheapo stuff.

4. H100 cooler Mega, those dimensions should fit in nicely in the bottom two fans, or I could even remove the two top outlet fans and just remove the piece of wood between the top two fans to ensure that it fits in there. I will ensure making those dimensions on the top, and the bottom so that I could mount two H100 if need be. (I can move the fans by changing the dimension of the wood between the two holes.

5. Using old parts of a case. Fly, there are two parts that I have been extremely tempted to just pull out from an old case, that is the PCI slots at the back, that for me will be the biggest challenge, and potentially hard drive brackets. The way that those brackets are designed now, is actually very easy to make. You can make a very long piece, and then just cut the 12 individual ones, glue a stopper at the back of 6 of them, and Bob's your uncle. Those brackets took me a long time to design... I was in two minds to actually rip old parts from a case, but that felt way too much like cheating...

6. That Fractal case looks nice Mega, just check though, I don't think it will be able to accommodate a HPTX size board. The insides looks a bit small. But agreed, very nice case. It is amazing, that after carefully analysing each and every component, and placement, one ends up with a design that is pretty much replicating exactly what other cases do. Obviously, those guys have gave case designs some thought as well.

7. Longer and flatter case... looking at the flatter part, yes that was definately something that I was looking at. My key restriction with making the case flatter was the side mounted DVD drives and the thickness of the side panels (the side panels and the motherboard tray will take up 75mm already). With regard to making it longer, I am restricted in terms of the space that I have. (My desks are one of those that have a board coming down. However, just to put this case outside dimensions in perspective: they are: 300w x 650h, x 520d. Other popular cases dimensions are for instance: Corsair 800D: 229w x 609h x 609d. HAF932: 230w x 545h x 575d, and the Lian-Li PC-X2000 which I've used as my "starting point" measuring 230w x 430d x 680h. The case is actually 90mm longer than the Lian-Li PC-X2000. The Corsair and the HAF are both longer (89mm & 55mm) but that is because those HDD's are mounted flat. I am making up some space by mounting them vertical. I will however have a look, see if I can make the case slightly longer still, as I don't think it will make that big a difference if it protrude from underneath my desk. Good point, I'll have a relook at it, thanks Jarrod.

8. Taking this case to RAGE, NOOOOOOO fraking way! It will be build, carried up to the games room (most likely by two people), the kit installed, and that is where it will STAY for a very very long time.

Thanks for the input guys they are all good comments. I definately have some homework to do still.

flycatchr
11-10-2011, 11:06 AM
what about making the case wider - especially if it isnt going anywhere -
AND it could even be PART of the desk - IE - to balance out you have drawers on the other side of the desk - matching the "case" which is now actually the legs of the desk. - in other words - the case is actually part of a BIGGER project.

Megageth
11-10-2011, 01:09 PM
Are you going to pilfer the pci slot covers from another case or make something yourself?

Skouperd
11-10-2011, 02:52 PM
No Geth, I will be routing the slots from a solid piece of wood as well. The way that I will be doing that is to use a template / guide and just trace the lines. This in my mind is the most dificult aspect of this whole built, just ensuring the PCI back plate is perfectly aligned, straight, right dimensions and that my router doesn't slip.

If it failes, then yeah, my backup is to use another case backplate.

Megageth
11-10-2011, 06:19 PM
The wooden solution will look awesome. I'm really keen to see how this turns out.

Skouperd
11-10-2011, 10:20 PM
ok, I've played with sketchup again, and I remeasured the dimensions for my table as well.

1. The height of the machine is clearing my desk as it stands with less than 5mm
2. I can fit two 120mm fans next to each other on the top (i.e. one more to the left of the H70 currently) but that doesn't leave me enough space (on the top nor the bottom) to mount the PSU.
3. There is no ways that I can move the PSU to the bottom without giving up the extractor fan. I'd rather keep the extractor fan and have a side-mounted PSU
4. I can not turn the psu horizontally, at least not without making the case wider than present. It is already 300mm wide.
5. By removing the board that is hiding the cables (between the PSU and the 5.25" bay drives) I am able to install at least 2 more 5.25" bay devices, and a potential 3 (depending on the cables coming from the PSU)
6. I can have six 120mm fans on the bottom. That should provide me with sufficient clearing for if I ever wanted to install a custom H20 kit.

So guys, thanks for the comments, feedback and tips thusfar. Given those comments, I've made some adjustments already, moving the bottom fans so that I could expand them in future, so do you have any other suggestions?

Stu
12-10-2011, 09:59 AM
I would agree the wooden case would look epic with a very clean finish or wood stain (not other stains). While we on the subject of wood. How would you mount the board? with specific mounting pins? I am just wondering if these would be substantial enough to bear the weight of all the components on the board?

Otherwise it look freeking brilliant Skoup I am extremely interested on how this turn out.

Skouperd
12-10-2011, 11:14 AM
Hi Stu, I'll be using what is called "inside/outside threaded nuts", I've sourced some of them about 6 weeks ago. These nuts basically screw into the wood (it is about 5mm in diametre, with the threads being about 1.5mm so quite "bulky") and made to go into wood. These nuts once screwed into the wood are flushed with the wood itself. The middle of this nut, is threaded for machine screws (i.e. metal screws). The nuts that I found had the exact same thread as used on pc's screws so I can now screw a normal spacer as found in any case into these inside/outside threaded nut. So the motherboard will be sitting on a normal spacer as found in any case, but the spacer in turn will be screwed into an inside/outside threaded nut.

These little beauties are rare to find, but I did find 10 of them, and waiting for my supplier to get more stock in as I'll be using it throughout the case.

Skouperd
25-11-2011, 08:42 AM
Hi guys, I thought I post some teasers for the time being. I have since managed to complete the outer shell for the case and yesterday I've managed to just dry fit it all together. (i.e. this is just temporary just to ensure I have the right dimensions etc before working on the inside)

I should be finishing the motherboard tray this coming week, but figured, in the meantime just some teasers for your enjoyment.

In case you ask, yes, I've managed to cut the PCI slots directly out of the mahogony so I will not need to have any metal backplates showing on the outside. Also, since my GPU is a big mother, I've removed the slots that would restrict airflow which is why you will see there is a big hole, and then the bunch of small ones.

BTW, the colour will change as soon as one finish sanding it and then give it some oil, that however happens only way at the end.

http://blog.skoups.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Mahogony-PC-Case-1.jpg
http://blog.skoups.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Mahogony-PC-Case-2.jpg
http://blog.skoups.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Mahogony-PC-Case-3.jpg

Megageth
25-11-2011, 09:34 AM
I guess once you have build one, it will be easy to knock out a 2nd one, for a close friend say?

Thor_23
25-11-2011, 09:47 AM
Hey Skoups, that looks EPIC!

Skouperd
25-11-2011, 10:03 AM
I guess once you have build one, it will be easy to knock out a 2nd one, for a close friend say?


Mega, you are actually correct, the first one is always the most difficult one to do, the second and third one should be a lot easier. The biggest time problem I've been having though is not having a proper thickness planer. So, I might just be tempted to say yes if you are prepared to contribute towards one...

While the third case will be made a lot easier with a table saw...

Voetsek-Mikey
28-11-2011, 08:23 PM
Does anyone feel like a braai at Skoups place? mmmmmmmm

Skouperd
13-12-2011, 09:33 AM
Some teasers.... progress is slow but the estimated deadline is in a week's time.

Ps, appologies for the photo quality, just using my phone to snap some pictures this morning before work.


http://blog.skoups.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Full-on-compressed.jpg

http://blog.skoups.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Top_Panel_compressed.jpg

http://blog.skoups.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/PSU-Compressed.jpg

http://blog.skoups.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Front-Panel-Compressed.jpg

http://blog.skoups.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Bottom_Fans_Compressed.jpg

Thor_23
13-12-2011, 09:50 AM
coming along nicely!


Are you going to put some meshing on the fan openings?

Skouperd
13-12-2011, 10:08 AM
Hi Thor, you can not see it in the pictures that I have here, but yes below the fans, on the bottom pair of wood that is slightly lighter than the rest, I made special dovetail grooves. These grooves will receive sliding dust covers that will cover all the intake fans in the bottom. The dust covers that I will be using is custom made (by your's truly) using filters used for air filtration in wood working shops.

I am not sure yet if I want to cover the H70 which will be situating on the second 120mm hole from the top. (the top fan will be an exhaust fan). Even if I don't cover the H70, I recon the dust should remain minimum inside the case.

By the way, the ugly red button, that is the power button, I did not want to ruin the front of the case. (it can be switched on very easily from the front). Also, don't worry about the ugly screw left of the PSU, I still need to turn a mahgony knob for the end of it, as that is the "thumb-screw" which holds the back panel in place.

Any event, thanks for looking and commenting.

s3xy_j0nny
13-12-2011, 10:17 AM
Damn, I love well made wood stuffs! It is beautiful, Denis. Will have to come visit when it's done so I can check it out first hand.

Skouperd
13-12-2011, 10:35 AM
you are more than welcome Jono, I am starting my leave on the 23rd of December and am definately planning to spend some good quality time in front of the pc...

s3xy_j0nny
13-12-2011, 10:49 AM
Shweet, hopefully I start leave about the same time. I'll get hold of you so you can have snacks and drinks waiting for me when I arrive.

TygerBS
13-12-2011, 10:57 AM
Perdtjie, only saw this now.

Wow awesome work!

I my self have been considering doing exactly that for a while now, even drew up a few plans.

One thing i am not sure you considered. Wood will absorb a lot of heat generated by the system, this is ok, but over a long period it could lead to cracking and discolouration.
The solution that i was thinking of is getting some foil leaf and lining the entire inside with the foil leaf. This will then reflect most of the heat, and also make for quite a spiffy looking inside.
Just a thought.


Good luck, i see you might have a few orders soon!

Skouperd
13-12-2011, 11:17 AM
Tyger, you are absolutely correct. The biggest concerns for me working with wood was the following:
1. Expansion / contraction, as the wood absorb humidity, and dries out
2. Splitting due to too much stress on certain joints
3. Discolouration due to UV and sun

So, I don't think I will lie if I say I've done about 200 hours of research (over 5 years) on wood finishes. As the amount of research will confirm, the finish to the wood has been a real nightmare to me for ages. On the projects to date I've been trying all kinds of finishes, raw-linseed oil, wax, Danish oil, varnish, polyearathane, and who knows what else. I've build a mahogany cabinet for my bathroom (specifically to see how good heat and humidity could be absorbed) and sealed that with Danish oil. Every 6 months or so I will just give the cabinet a fresh wipe and to date, despite the heat and moisture, the cabinet is still perfect with very little expansion or drying out. As such, I've decided not to fight the expansion of the wood too much, which is why you'll see my bottom joints etc have a 1.5mm to 2mm gap (this was on purpose, not a flaw in my measuring techniques) in order to allow for expansion.

In terms of the heat, granted the heat of the components will be considerably higher than your average bathroom, but I believe that with the amount of airflow passing through the case (in total there is 8x120mm fans spread througout the case) I recon the airflow should get rid of the heat quickly.

With regard to discolouration of the wood, if you ask most people what colour is mahogony, they will tell you a dark brown colour, in actual fact it is more red than brown and only over age does it turn to brown. Some people uses cheap tricks to stain wood (which is wrong on just so many levels) to get the colour that they will eventually get. Since I did not stain the wood (wtf stains solid wood?) I am hoping that over time, the wood does actually discolour to the colour that everybody associate with it.

By the way, the cut out behind the CPU is big enough to house a 9th 120mm fan which I could install to perhaps keep the underside of the motherboard cool which I trust should help reduce the warping associated with heat of the motherboard tray.

If you have an interest to tackle a project like this, I will definately recommend it. There are some very challenging moments, like cutting out the PCI Slots, or ensuring that the bracket for the back-io-plate is exactly the right dimensions (you out with more then 0.5mm and the back plate will fall out), but at the end of the day, it is a hell of a ride.

With regard to orders, I am actually thinking of building another one as I've learned a thing or two on this one, so this case may just be going on auction....

Skouperd
15-12-2011, 09:56 AM
I am awaiting my one side panel, which should arrive today, after which I will complete a full write up, (obviously).

Somebody' who's opinion I value mentioned that the metal brackets holding the PSU / fans together looked crapped, since everything is such a tight fit already, I had removed it without a problem. So, right now, all the fans, the H70, the PSU, and the SSD's are all held up by friction and gravity. (It is a VERY tight fit, so none of the components will fall out nor shift by themselves. So don't worry) Granted, the new look is a lot cleaner without the metal braces.

Anyevent, not the full story yet, but at least something to look at while I am writing.

http://blog.skoups.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Case-complete-Side-view_DSC_9912.jpg

http://blog.skoups.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Case-complete-Compressed-Side-views.jpg

http://blog.skoups.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Case-complete-Side-panel-compressed.jpg

http://blog.skoups.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Case-complete-Compressed-inside.jpg

http://blog.skoups.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Case-complete-Back-compressed.jpg

http://blog.skoups.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Case-complete-Compressed-IO-Back-panel.jpg

http://blog.skoups.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Case-complete-Compressed_SAS-ExpanderDSC_9930.jpg

http://blog.skoups.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Case-complete-Compressed_SSD.jpg

http://blog.skoups.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Case-complete-Compressed-workstation.jpg

(the monitor in the picture is a 26" monitor by the way)
Thanks for reading / looking, I'll post the final article soon.

flycatchr
15-12-2011, 10:08 AM
nice monitor :p

edit:
and keyboard :)








looks great skoups - I agree with brackets being removes :)

Skouperd
15-12-2011, 10:15 AM
fly, it looks very much like yours doesn't it? Which reminds me, I still need to give you the "back-plate" for your monitor if you intend to actually use it.

flycatchr
15-12-2011, 11:43 AM
that would be great skoups, i might wel want to re arange stuffs so that i mount on wall, wheneveryou get a chance

Skouperd
15-12-2011, 11:47 AM
hmm, it it not for wall mounting, it is a cover that will cover the cables as they came out of the monitor. Check on the back of the monitor, you will see it has an opening where the cables goes into, it is not for wall mounting.

flycatchr
15-12-2011, 06:51 PM
LOL, ok, snow problem

Skouperd
27-01-2012, 04:38 PM
Finally got around to complete my write up. Since most of the photos has been shared on GRRR's forums already, I am not going to duplicate it. Here is the link to the write up.

http://blog.skoups.com/?p=272

NiteShade
27-01-2012, 08:12 PM
Skoups, I must say I'm impressed. It looks really, really nice!

Skouperd
28-01-2012, 12:03 PM
thanks Shadey, it did turn out quite nice thanks.