Skouperd
21-06-2010, 05:07 PM
Ok, as part of my many sins, I built computers as a hobby. I've received a very interesting request and figured I might just as well ask your guys views on this as well. I have a budget of R10k to build a complete system. The only stuff that is EXCLUDED from that budget is
- A HDD (use an old one)
- A Case (use an old one)
- A keyboard (he have a gaming keyboard already)
- Mouse and mouse pad (he have a G5).
We need the following:
- MOBO
- PSU
- GPU
- CPU
- RAM
- Monitor (preferably a 24")
- Operating System
Now, my restrictions are:
1. It should be able to play BC2 at reasonable frame rates.
2. It should provide a reasonable upgrade path
3. It should last about 3 years
4. I want to keep my profit margin at around 5%
5. I don't want to overclock the PC at ALL! (stability is a much greater concern for me)
Given the above, what do you all think about the following 2 systems:
CPU R 1,696.15 Amd socket AM3 ( AM2/AM2+ backward compatiable ) Phenom2 x4 , Quad-core 955 ( 3.2Ghz ) Black edition , unlocked clock multiplier ; 4 x 128k L1 + 2mb - 4x 512k L2 + 1x shared 6mb L3 ; 45nm , 125w , 4000mhz HT3.0 HT3.0 , with PVT - box cpu ( with fan )
Mobo R 930.07 Asus M4A77TD Pro ; for AM3 only , with EPU-4 ( Energy Processing Unit ) , support PCi-E2.0 crossfire , hypertransport 3.0 ; amd770 + SB710 chipset , 4x dual channel DDR3-1600(O.C)/1333 , 6 ( 5 internal+1 external ) s-ata2 with raid 0/1/0+1/10 , 1 x parallel ata133 , on-board VT1708S 7.1 audio with optical S/PDiF out + gigabit lan ; 1x pci-e (1x) , 2 x pci-e 2.0 16x ( at 16x+4x ) , 3 x pci , with com/serial + parallel port , with 8+1 phase cap-less Power + EPU4 + Express gate + Turbo key - atx , 1 x PS2 only for kb
RAM R 1,220.94 Corsair CMV4GX3M2A1333C9 , value select , 2x 2Gb/2048mb kit , ddr3-1333 ( PC3-10666 ) , CL9 , 1.6v - 240pin - lifetime warranty
CPU R 956.40 Corsair GS600 , Eps12V , with 140mm bLue led fan , ATX 12V V2.3 - 600w ( 12v : 576w ) , 80PLUS white certified for energy saving , 24pin ( 4pin detachable ) , with active-PFC , 2x8pin (6+2) PCI-E power connectors , 6x SATA ; with OCP, OVP, OPP, SCP, UVP - 3 years warranty - no power cord
MON R 2,153.40 Samsung B2430H , glossy black , stylish curve design , 24" Wide lcd ; with Magic Eco+ Magic Angle+ Magic Return+ MagicBright3 + MagicTune , Full HD 1920x1080 (WUGA+) ; brightness- 300cd/m2 ; DC contrast ratio- 1000:1 / 70000:1 , response time- 5ms , 75mm vesa-wall mountable - d-sub+Dvi+HDMi
GPU R 1,767.97 Sapphire HD5770 Game edition , 40nm , HDMi ready , support Eyefinity + DirectX 11 , crossfire-X , built-in HDMi codec+7.1 audio , 1080p HDCP Compliant , pci-e 2.0 x16 , 1Gb 128bit 4 channel DDR5 , 16RoPs , 76.8Gb/sec memory transfer ; 800 stream processors ( pixel shader engine + vertex pipelines ) , 40 texture unit , 1.36 TeraFLoPs , core/memory : 850/4800mhz , 2xdvi+Hdmi+DisplayPort, HDTV+HDMi tv-out - full retail pack
OS R 1,039.00 Microsoft Dsp windows 7 Home Premium 64bit - support 1 cpu / 16gb memory , support multi monitors , multi-touch point for touch screen , aero effect , MCE
TOT R 9,763.93 TOTAL
versus this system here:
CPU R 2,072.01 Amd socket AM3 ( AM2/AM2+ backward compatiable ) Phenom2 x6 - Hexa/6-core 1055T ( 2.8Ghz , 3.3Ghz turbo core ) ; 6 x 128k L1 + 3mb - 6x 512k L2 + 1x shared 6mb L3 ; 45nm , 125w , 4000mhz HT3.0 HT3.0 , with PVT - box cpu ( with fan )
Mobo R 1,084.48 Asus M4A87TD ; for AM3 only , on-board core unlocker button , support SATA6G , hypertransport 3.0, clear CMOS button ; amd870 + SB850 chipset , 4x dual channel DDR3-2000(O.C)/1600 , 6 x s-ata6G with raid 0/1/0+1/5/10 , 1 x parallel ata133 , on-board via1818 7.1 audio with optical S/PDiF out + gigabit lan ; 1x pci-e (1x) , 1x pci-e (4x) , 1 x pci-e 2.0 16x , 3 x pci , with EPU+ Express gate + Turbo key + Turbo-V - atx
RAM R 1,650.66 Corsair CMX4GX3M2A1600C7 , XMS 3 , with heatsink , 2 x 2Gb/2048mb kit - support Intel XMP ( eXtreme Memory Profiles ) , ddr3-1600 ( PC3-12800 ) , CL7 , 1.65v - 240pin - lifetime warranty
CPU R 956.40 Corsair GS600 , Eps12V , with 140mm bLue led fan , ATX 12V V2.3 - 600w ( 12v : 576w ) , 80PLUS white certified for energy saving , 24pin ( 4pin detachable ) , with active-PFC , 2x8pin (6+2) PCI-E power connectors , 6x SATA ; with OCP, OVP, OPP, SCP, UVP - 3 years warranty - no power cord
MON R 2,153.40 Samsung B2430H , glossy black , stylish curve design , 24" Wide lcd ; with Magic Eco+ Magic Angle+ Magic Return+ MagicBright3 + MagicTune , Full HD 1920x1080 (WUGA+) ; brightness- 300cd/m2 ; DC contrast ratio- 1000:1 / 70000:1 , response time- 5ms , 75mm vesa-wall mountable - d-sub+Dvi+HDMi
GPU R 1,767.97 Sapphire HD5770 Game edition , 40nm , HDMi ready , support Eyefinity + DirectX 11 , crossfire-X , built-in HDMi codec+7.1 audio , 1080p HDCP Compliant , pci-e 2.0 x16 , 1Gb 128bit 4 channel DDR5 , 16RoPs , 76.8Gb/sec memory transfer ; 800 stream processors ( pixel shader engine + vertex pipelines ) , 40 texture unit , 1.36 TeraFLoPs , core/memory : 850/4800mhz , 2xdvi+Hdmi+DisplayPort, HDTV+HDMi tv-out - full retail pack
OS R 1,039.00 Microsoft Dsp windows 7 Home Premium 64bit - support 1 cpu / 16gb memory , support multi monitors , multi-touch point for touch screen , aero effect , MCE
TOT R 10,723.92
All the above prices includes VAT and my 5% profit. Now, I would really like to increase the graphics card to the 58xx series, but the price difference then just starts to exceed it too much. Also, without being able to confirm it, I would imagine on the above systems, the CPU will be the bottleneck in any event.
- A HDD (use an old one)
- A Case (use an old one)
- A keyboard (he have a gaming keyboard already)
- Mouse and mouse pad (he have a G5).
We need the following:
- MOBO
- PSU
- GPU
- CPU
- RAM
- Monitor (preferably a 24")
- Operating System
Now, my restrictions are:
1. It should be able to play BC2 at reasonable frame rates.
2. It should provide a reasonable upgrade path
3. It should last about 3 years
4. I want to keep my profit margin at around 5%
5. I don't want to overclock the PC at ALL! (stability is a much greater concern for me)
Given the above, what do you all think about the following 2 systems:
CPU R 1,696.15 Amd socket AM3 ( AM2/AM2+ backward compatiable ) Phenom2 x4 , Quad-core 955 ( 3.2Ghz ) Black edition , unlocked clock multiplier ; 4 x 128k L1 + 2mb - 4x 512k L2 + 1x shared 6mb L3 ; 45nm , 125w , 4000mhz HT3.0 HT3.0 , with PVT - box cpu ( with fan )
Mobo R 930.07 Asus M4A77TD Pro ; for AM3 only , with EPU-4 ( Energy Processing Unit ) , support PCi-E2.0 crossfire , hypertransport 3.0 ; amd770 + SB710 chipset , 4x dual channel DDR3-1600(O.C)/1333 , 6 ( 5 internal+1 external ) s-ata2 with raid 0/1/0+1/10 , 1 x parallel ata133 , on-board VT1708S 7.1 audio with optical S/PDiF out + gigabit lan ; 1x pci-e (1x) , 2 x pci-e 2.0 16x ( at 16x+4x ) , 3 x pci , with com/serial + parallel port , with 8+1 phase cap-less Power + EPU4 + Express gate + Turbo key - atx , 1 x PS2 only for kb
RAM R 1,220.94 Corsair CMV4GX3M2A1333C9 , value select , 2x 2Gb/2048mb kit , ddr3-1333 ( PC3-10666 ) , CL9 , 1.6v - 240pin - lifetime warranty
CPU R 956.40 Corsair GS600 , Eps12V , with 140mm bLue led fan , ATX 12V V2.3 - 600w ( 12v : 576w ) , 80PLUS white certified for energy saving , 24pin ( 4pin detachable ) , with active-PFC , 2x8pin (6+2) PCI-E power connectors , 6x SATA ; with OCP, OVP, OPP, SCP, UVP - 3 years warranty - no power cord
MON R 2,153.40 Samsung B2430H , glossy black , stylish curve design , 24" Wide lcd ; with Magic Eco+ Magic Angle+ Magic Return+ MagicBright3 + MagicTune , Full HD 1920x1080 (WUGA+) ; brightness- 300cd/m2 ; DC contrast ratio- 1000:1 / 70000:1 , response time- 5ms , 75mm vesa-wall mountable - d-sub+Dvi+HDMi
GPU R 1,767.97 Sapphire HD5770 Game edition , 40nm , HDMi ready , support Eyefinity + DirectX 11 , crossfire-X , built-in HDMi codec+7.1 audio , 1080p HDCP Compliant , pci-e 2.0 x16 , 1Gb 128bit 4 channel DDR5 , 16RoPs , 76.8Gb/sec memory transfer ; 800 stream processors ( pixel shader engine + vertex pipelines ) , 40 texture unit , 1.36 TeraFLoPs , core/memory : 850/4800mhz , 2xdvi+Hdmi+DisplayPort, HDTV+HDMi tv-out - full retail pack
OS R 1,039.00 Microsoft Dsp windows 7 Home Premium 64bit - support 1 cpu / 16gb memory , support multi monitors , multi-touch point for touch screen , aero effect , MCE
TOT R 9,763.93 TOTAL
versus this system here:
CPU R 2,072.01 Amd socket AM3 ( AM2/AM2+ backward compatiable ) Phenom2 x6 - Hexa/6-core 1055T ( 2.8Ghz , 3.3Ghz turbo core ) ; 6 x 128k L1 + 3mb - 6x 512k L2 + 1x shared 6mb L3 ; 45nm , 125w , 4000mhz HT3.0 HT3.0 , with PVT - box cpu ( with fan )
Mobo R 1,084.48 Asus M4A87TD ; for AM3 only , on-board core unlocker button , support SATA6G , hypertransport 3.0, clear CMOS button ; amd870 + SB850 chipset , 4x dual channel DDR3-2000(O.C)/1600 , 6 x s-ata6G with raid 0/1/0+1/5/10 , 1 x parallel ata133 , on-board via1818 7.1 audio with optical S/PDiF out + gigabit lan ; 1x pci-e (1x) , 1x pci-e (4x) , 1 x pci-e 2.0 16x , 3 x pci , with EPU+ Express gate + Turbo key + Turbo-V - atx
RAM R 1,650.66 Corsair CMX4GX3M2A1600C7 , XMS 3 , with heatsink , 2 x 2Gb/2048mb kit - support Intel XMP ( eXtreme Memory Profiles ) , ddr3-1600 ( PC3-12800 ) , CL7 , 1.65v - 240pin - lifetime warranty
CPU R 956.40 Corsair GS600 , Eps12V , with 140mm bLue led fan , ATX 12V V2.3 - 600w ( 12v : 576w ) , 80PLUS white certified for energy saving , 24pin ( 4pin detachable ) , with active-PFC , 2x8pin (6+2) PCI-E power connectors , 6x SATA ; with OCP, OVP, OPP, SCP, UVP - 3 years warranty - no power cord
MON R 2,153.40 Samsung B2430H , glossy black , stylish curve design , 24" Wide lcd ; with Magic Eco+ Magic Angle+ Magic Return+ MagicBright3 + MagicTune , Full HD 1920x1080 (WUGA+) ; brightness- 300cd/m2 ; DC contrast ratio- 1000:1 / 70000:1 , response time- 5ms , 75mm vesa-wall mountable - d-sub+Dvi+HDMi
GPU R 1,767.97 Sapphire HD5770 Game edition , 40nm , HDMi ready , support Eyefinity + DirectX 11 , crossfire-X , built-in HDMi codec+7.1 audio , 1080p HDCP Compliant , pci-e 2.0 x16 , 1Gb 128bit 4 channel DDR5 , 16RoPs , 76.8Gb/sec memory transfer ; 800 stream processors ( pixel shader engine + vertex pipelines ) , 40 texture unit , 1.36 TeraFLoPs , core/memory : 850/4800mhz , 2xdvi+Hdmi+DisplayPort, HDTV+HDMi tv-out - full retail pack
OS R 1,039.00 Microsoft Dsp windows 7 Home Premium 64bit - support 1 cpu / 16gb memory , support multi monitors , multi-touch point for touch screen , aero effect , MCE
TOT R 10,723.92
All the above prices includes VAT and my 5% profit. Now, I would really like to increase the graphics card to the 58xx series, but the price difference then just starts to exceed it too much. Also, without being able to confirm it, I would imagine on the above systems, the CPU will be the bottleneck in any event.