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J_Th4ng
24-03-2010, 05:55 PM
Hey guys, in the interest of those of us who are looking at PC upgrades for BC2, I’ve put together some comparative quotes to look at. This is looking purely at the ‘core system’, which I’ve defined as Motherboard, CPU and RAM i.e Graphics cards are excluded from this. It’s easy to do comparisons of graphics cards; there are plenty of reviews out there to look at.

The prices that I’m including here come from the latest Frontosa pricelist, and are inclusive of VAT. Of course at time of purchase, prices and availability may well change.

My assumption is that anyone looking to upgrade now should be running on a Core2 platform, most likely Core2Duo. These individuals would also most likely be running with ~2GB DDR2 RAM, so any upgrade of socket will also require a move to DDR3 memory.

Budget upgrader – CPU and RAM only

The first option that we have is for the budget upgrader,the gamer on an extreme budget who simply wants to get a quad core CPU onto their existing PC. They will also most likely want to get their RAM up a bit, as 2Gb isn’t really enough for modern applications. Remember that although a 32bit operating system won’t address more than 3.2GB of RAM, it doesn’t mean that you can’t install 4GB+ into your system. In fact, it would be prudent to do this, as with the goodness that is Win7, you’re going to want to move off XP sooner rather than later...

Intel Core2 Quad Q9400 – R1757.88
2x2GB DDR2-800 CL5 – R955.32
Total: R2713.20

Pros: Cheap and cheerful. Should give a decent increase in performance over a Core2 Duo in BC2.
Cons: No future upgrade path. You may regret this decision a year down the line, as all components will need to be replaced in any upgrade.

The midrange upgrade

The second option, looks at a cheaper full system upgrade, replacing motherboard, CPU and RAM. In this option, we have a choice of an Intel i5 platform, or an AMD Phenom platform. Prices are similar between the two, as is performance in games.

In both of these midrange upgrade options, I have included an ASUS Republic of Gamers (ROG)motherboard. This means that these systems could be obtained for a lower cost, but as the motherboard is the basis of the system, it is my opinion that it’s well worth shelling out a little more to get a good one. My experience in working with the ROG motherboards has been fantastic. They overclock very well, they have all of the features that one could want on the board, and are made with high quality components. They also have SupremeFX X-Fi soundcards, which gives very good audio performance for an onboard card.

Midrange Option 1: An Intel i5 system

Intel LGA1156 i5-750 Quad core, 2.66ghz – R1893.54
2x2GB DDR3-1600 CL9 – R1193.58
ASUS Maximus III Gene (Republic of Gamers) – R2392.86
Total: R5479.98
Pros: Upgradeability. The i5-750 can be replaced with a higher clocked i7 CPU at a later stage, which will add Hyperthreading support as well as higher speeds. Aggressive step up, means that the CPU will overclock itself fairly well if only one or two cores are used.
Cons: The PCI-E controller is on-die, meaning limited lanes for Graphics card communication. This means that this platform is not ideal for SLi/Crossfire configuration.

Midrange Option 2: A Phenom II X4 system

AMD Phenom2 X4 , Quad-core 965 Black Edition (3.4Ghz) – R1936.86
2x2GB DDR3-1600 CL9 – R1193.58
Asus Crosshair 3 Formula (Republic of Gamers) – R2278.86
Total: R5409.30

Pros: Black Edition CPU is multiplier unlocked for maximum overclocking potential
Cons: Although gaming performance on this platform is on par with the i5 system, performance in other areas is lacking (e.g video encoding). Also, may not overclock as well as the i5.

The high end – Intel i7 and a socket 1366 Platform

I have included this here for two reasons. Firstly, it’s the way to go that gives the best performance, as well as future upgradeability. Secondly, and more importantly I think, it’s not as expensive as one may believe. If we consider that the midrange systems are going for ~R5500, the high end system at ~R7000 isn’t hugely more expensive. And it comes with more RAM (6GB instead of 4GB), a faster CPU which has hyperthreading support, and is built on a very mature chipset which is also slated as Intel’s performance platform going forward. This means that future upgrades to 6 core (and possibly more) CPUs will be possible.

Although this is a high end option, I’ve still gone with the slowest CPU in the i7 range, the 920. The reason for this is that this CPU is an absolute beast of an overclocker, it’s very possible to get a 50% overclock on this CPU with a decent cooler. Also, as you go up in the range through the i7 CPUs, prices increase dramatically, yet stock performance is not much faster at all. There is very little price/performance gain in going with a 950 and even less in a 975.

Intel LGA1366 i7-920 - Quad Core+Hyper-Threading, 2.66ghz – R2734.86
3x2GB DDR3-1600 CL9 – R1768.14
ASUS Rampage 2 Gene (Republic of Gamers) – R2533.08
Total: R7036.08

Pros: The fastest chipset currently available, combined with a very capable (and overclockable CPU). 6GB RAM in triple channel configuration means extreme memory bandwidth. Plenty of upgradeability going forward as the Intel enthusiast platform.
Cons: Price. It’s the most expensive option here.

I hope that this is useful to anyone looking to get their archaic rig souped up in order to experience Bad Company 2 at it’s best. Please note that the prices quoted here are dealer prices from Frontosa, and are subject to change without notice. Denis or I can help anyone looking to get the components from Frontosa, whether it be in Johannesburg or Cape Town.

One last thing!! Regardless of the upgrade option chosen, I’s strongly recommend getting a decent aftermarket cooler to plonk on top of the CPU. All of the CPU’s listed should give decent overclocks, and to do so you’ll want to have good cooling. There are many good coolers available, the one that I recommend is the Coolermaster V8. It’s a beast of a cooler, and can be yours for R584.82 including VAT.

Please feel free to post any questions/suggestions that you might have. These options are my selections, and I’m sure that people will have slightly (or largely) different components that they would choose. However, this should give a good indication of the price ranges that you’d be looking at to do a core system upgrade.

If I get a chance later, I’ll add to this with some graphics card options for consideration.

Megageth
24-03-2010, 06:05 PM
Busy day at work?

SlipperyDuck
24-03-2010, 06:07 PM
GRRReat advise there SirDragz... on the pulse of the serious gamer i see :p

Stu
24-03-2010, 11:15 PM
this is great stuff was good to look through this... and get an eggzpert opinion on the subject.

Will def take this into consideration pending a lighter finical year might even consider the Quad core route... Like you said many pro's and con's to the different options available.

Paul
25-03-2010, 07:01 AM
Well from personal experience I can highly recommend the mid-range upgrade to the AMD Phenom. Admittedly I have only tested it on BC2 and not other "heavy" apps, it runs like a dream!

Phatso
25-03-2010, 07:42 AM
Excellent little write up Jarrod. Should help anyone looking to get their macheen better for BC2 :)

Just regarding CPU coolers, if you want something a little cheaper, but still leet, I have a Coolermaster Hyper N-520 (http://www.techfuels.com/attachments/processors/12102d1249367857-cooler-master-hyper-n520-main.jpg) and it keeps things naas and cool.

Thor_23
25-03-2010, 08:16 AM
Thanks J for writing this up as in the near future this is going to help me a lot....

I like the amd option that Paul got(BTW which gpu are you using?) add maybe one of the coolers that Phat's are ref to....

Will be doing a complete upgrade in about 2 months and this gives me a sense of direction, I will however be doing a FULL system upgrade and will also be upgrading my Box,GPU,LCD.....

Paul
25-03-2010, 08:25 AM
I like the amd option that Paul got(BTW which gpu are you using?) add maybe one of the coolers that Phat's are ref to....

Will be doing a complete upgrade in about 2 months and this gives me a sense of direction, I will however be doing a FULL system upgrade and will also be upgrading my Box,GPU,LCD.....


I kept my old GPU, didn't have to upgrade that. I am using the ASUS EN8800GT 1Gb

J_Th4ng
25-03-2010, 09:09 AM
Excellent little write up Jarrod. Should help anyone looking to get their macheen better for BC2 :)

Just regarding CPU coolers, if you want something a little cheaper, but still leet, I have a Coolermaster Hyper N-520 (http://www.techfuels.com/attachments/processors/12102d1249367857-cooler-master-hyper-n520-main.jpg) and it keeps things naas and cool.


That is a nice little cooler, and as mentioned a little cheaper. Current price on it is R328.32. Only thing I'll say is that we haven't tested it with a decent overclock yet (get to it Phats!! ;)). The V8 I have read a good few reviews on, and they all indicate that it gives good results.

Ultimately, the point that I want to make is that it's a good idea to get an aftermarket cooler, and not stick with the stock CPU coolers provided by the manufacturers. Another thing that's good to bear in mind is that most modern coolers are mounted through the motherboard and attached to a backplate. This means that in the majority of cases, you'll need to remove the motherboard in order to install the fan. This is one very good reason to buy the cooler at the same time as you buy the motherboard and CPU. It's a pain in the arse having to remove your motherboard from it's case once it's been installed...

NiteShade
25-03-2010, 06:22 PM
Awesome write-up, Jarrod!

As far as coolers, I'm using some Zalman cooler that seems to work well too.

Paul
26-03-2010, 08:36 AM
Quick question, if you don't and are not planning to overclock your CPU, is it worth it to get an Non-Stock cooler? I have never used anything other than the CPU fan that comes with the CPU for my cooling

Megageth
26-03-2010, 10:03 AM
If you're not overclocking then I would say no. The stock coolers are designed to keep the CPU at decent temps during normal operation and most do that pretty well.