View Full Version : Wired gaming mouse vs Wireless stock mouse
Irish_Luck28
25-04-2013, 11:21 AM
Guys,
I need some help, currently i'm using some std wireless mouse for BF3. I've heard some rumours that i might be a noob and sacrificing precious milliseconds in the heat of battle. Do i need a wired gaming mouse, or can i continue owning with wireless?
Queue the slaughter
TygerBS
25-04-2013, 11:41 AM
Yea get a good wired mouse, it does make a difference.
A steelsieres, or razor, or logitech.
Roccat Kone[+] XTD. That is all I am saying
Irish_Luck28
25-04-2013, 11:50 AM
Thanks Tyger.
NoMaD
25-04-2013, 12:12 PM
Razer mumba... so you can choose when you want to go wireless or wired... best of both... I am very happy with mine!
Hubris
25-04-2013, 12:20 PM
I think it is really down to DPI on the mouse, but sure standard wireless isnt as quick as wired. I also recommend the Mamba, it's a bit pricey but you won't regret a cent and it will serve you well for a couple years. The wireless is pretty much indistinguishable from wired performance so you can swop between them based on your preference.
RussianElite.
25-04-2013, 12:27 PM
Affordable wired option that is a absolute King of a mouse is the Logitech MX518 or I think its nenamed to 300 something. Chronos got him one at Rage and I'm sure hell give you positive feedback about it.
P.S I got one and it rocks, I think they go for R299 or R350.
J_Th4ng
25-04-2013, 12:33 PM
Agreed with everyone here. Wireless mice are not friendly for twitch based games, even wireless gaming mice are not favoured by serious players due to input lag.
What mouse you should go for though depends entirely on personal preference and budget. There are a huge range of dedicated gaming mice available, catering for different tastes. Having extra buttons on the mouse is one thing, but more important is the comfort in holding the mouse, dependant on the type of grip that you use.
Logitech, Razer, Roccat, Steelseries, Corsair, Coolermaster and even Microsoft - all of these companies offer a range of gaming mice. All are good, and they'll have models that will fit your budget (as long as you have one ;)). I suggest as much as possible getting hands on with a mouse before buying, although this can be difficult unless you can find a retailer that sells a great variety of mice.
What you don't want to do is buy a mouse simply because someone else swears by it. Personal preference is far more important with a mouse than any other piece of hardware.
Ja Drag is right, personal preference is very important I had a razer Diamond back (j0nny swears by his) and although it was sufficient I was not 100% happy. Got myself a Roccat Kone[+] (previous version to Roccat Kone[+] XTD) and I have not looked back.
Phatso
25-04-2013, 12:39 PM
Affordable wired option that is a absolute King of a mouse is the Logitech MX518 or I think its nenamed to 300 something. Chronos got him one at Rage and I'm sure hell give you positive feedback about it.
P.S I got one and it rocks, I think they go for R299 or R350.
This. I bought my Logitech MX518 8-9 years ago. And it still is a pleasure to use. It was succeeded by the G400: http://www.logitech.com/en-za/product/optical-gaming-mouse-g400?crid=825
Wireless is a nono for me not because of the whole "ZOMG CHAGE BATRIES BTWN RNDS!!!11one" but because it would be a schlep to keep a charged set and regarding the whole "charge while you play plug in" thing, meh, get a wired. It would also feel weird because after this many years of using wired, I would probably need a few months to get used to playing with a toy that doesn't have a string attached to it.
SlipperyDuck
25-04-2013, 12:49 PM
Wired all the way. (and don't buy into anything that says 1000hz response rate etc.... it's a load of poo-poo, it's actually detramental to you CPU performance(interrupt poling), but that's another story)
Basically you should go to a PC Store if you have one near by and test out some of them there meeses, get an idea of which shape of mouse works best for you - I'm a palm grip, my palm rests on my mouse with my First two fingers going contour-style over the mouse buttons(not raised and claw gripped)with my remaining two fingers gripping the side of the mouse. Thumb is countergrip
For me the best mouse ended up being the Logitech G500 as this fits my hands and grip to perfection - ie. you really REALLY have to figure out which mouse works best for you your hand -
*95% of the gamer-grade mice out there have the same features/buttons etc. so it's GRIP not Brand-name.
BadA$$jack
25-04-2013, 12:54 PM
Affordable wired option that is a absolute King of a mouse is the Logitech MX518 or I think its nenamed to 300 something. Chronos got him one at Rage and I'm sure hell give you positive feedback about it.
P.S I got one and it rocks, I think they go for R299 or R350.
For once I'll have to go with Russian on this one, Logitech G400 rocks, most comfy mouse for me!!
Thor_23
25-04-2013, 03:05 PM
Affordable wired option that is a absolute King of a mouse is the Logitech MX518 or I think its nenamed to 300 something. Chronos got him one at Rage and I'm sure hell give you positive feedback about it.
P.S I got one and it rocks, I think they go for R299 or R350.
Lol Rus, I actually hated the mouse so much I went and bought another razer imperator that folowing week :p
RussianElite.
25-04-2013, 03:05 PM
Nou gee hom vir my :P
Thor_23
25-04-2013, 03:06 PM
soz, gave it to my younger brother .......
RussianElite.
25-04-2013, 03:28 PM
Pffft what a waste
Megageth
25-04-2013, 03:31 PM
Yeah I have been through Logitech and Razer mice. Purely down to preference. I guess you haven't been to any lans recently if you are just getting back into pc gaming but whenever I am at rage or visiting other gamers I get my grubby paw prints on their mice and give them a test.
Hard to test in shops in SA.
Thor_23
25-04-2013, 03:34 PM
Yeah I have been through Logitech and Razer mice. Purely down to preference. I guess you haven't been to any lans recently if you are just getting back into pc gaming but whenever I am at rage or visiting other gamers I get my grubby paw prints on their mice and give them a test.
Hard to test in shops in SA.
True dat!
He cant leave other people's mice alone :p
Irish_Luck28
25-04-2013, 04:29 PM
Holy Shit. For someone just getting back into PC gaming it seems pretty daunting, i knew i was a noob with wireless, i just didn't realise how much of a noob. lol Thanks for the info guys, it helps a lot. Got some research and mouse fondling to do...
s3xy_j0nny
25-04-2013, 05:39 PM
Yeah, still using muh Razer Diamondback. Had it for 6 or 7 years now.
LevelCap has a good commentary on mouses here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsueZmDHcjs (focuses mainly on the Razer DeathAdder but also gives info on Logitech stuffs).
xFactor has a cool series of YouTube clips on mouse settings:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blw3DwzIQIk
On a side note, both these guys have really good BattleField channels on YouTube - totally worth subscribing and watching all their tips and tricks videos. I prefer LevelCap's stuff, but both are extremely helpful.
SlipperyDuck
25-04-2013, 06:25 PM
AND WATCH BATTLEFIELD FRIENDS:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G0SBROe21c
Skouperd
25-04-2013, 10:47 PM
good points made most contributors...
1. Listen to Slippery duck, you don't want 1000 interpol crap, unless you have a seriously well tweaked system. Don't get bog down by bull.
2. Ignore the fact that you can get like 20 button mouse, unless you actually gonna learn to use them, don't bother.
3. Ignore mouse weights, and rebalancing, marketing ploys only.
4. Wireless mice does introduce additional latency
5. you can bet your bottom dollar that the battery will run flat as you are on your best ever kill streak
There are a lot of good mice out there, depends on your hand size / preference what you want to get. I prefer my logitech mice, I have been through several of the G5, or G500 and the G518 series. They fit my hand well, but I do have small and delicate hands...
Megageth
25-04-2013, 11:22 PM
3. Ignore mouse weights, and rebalancing, marketing ploys only.
I think that's also down to preference, I play with a very sensitive setting and found that adding the heaviest weights gave me a better feel.
I didn't buy the mouse for the weights but they help. It also makes my wrist stronger so I can get a better grip on my
squash racket.
Skouperd
25-04-2013, 11:34 PM
squash racket you say....
Mega, on a more serious note, let me know when you feel like a game, I am always looking for some competition....
I agree with Mega. One of the reasons I didn't like the Diamond back was it was too light. The Kone[+] has a weight system and along with it's ergonomics it is a much better fit for me
J_Th4ng
26-04-2013, 09:09 AM
One thing that I like on a gaming mouse is sensitivity that's adjustable on the fly. I find it really useful when jumping into armour to be able to up sensitivity. And conversely, to drop sensitivity when sniping.
Skouperd
26-04-2013, 11:50 AM
...sensitivity that's adjustable on the Fly...
Shit, just don't tell Fly's wife his sensitivity can be adjusted.
Thor_23
26-04-2013, 02:50 PM
lol
Megageth
26-04-2013, 05:55 PM
squash racket you say....
Mega, on a more serious note, let me know when you feel like a game, I am always looking for some competition....
I am keen anytime Skoups as long as you realise I haven't played in about 2 years and my fitness is low.
flycatchr
26-04-2013, 06:45 PM
Shit, just don't tell Fly's wife his sensitivity can be adjusted.
too late :0
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